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    Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    on: 11 Nov 23, 11:18:55
    11 Nov 23, 11:18:55
    Some years ago I had an early Optimate battery charger/tender I think it was one of the original first version optimates.  That served me well for some years with no issues.  It only died when I tried to recover a deeply discharged leisure battery with it.

    Since then I have had an Oxford Oximiser, and I have never had huge confidence in it.  I've suffered at least two battery failures when it's been in use.  So I am contemplating getting something else.

    I have heard good reports of Ctek charger's over the years so I am thinking either get a new Optimate or a Ctek.  But the choice is quite overwhelming these days.  Has anyone a recommendation for either, and model, or anything else other than anything from Oxford.

    Bike has a standard oem lead acid battery, and I only envisage using it on the bike although capability to charge car batteries might be handy.
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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #1 on: 12 Nov 23, 11:27:42
    12 Nov 23, 11:27:42
    I swear by Optimate Four.
    The early optimises had a tendency to over charge in very cold conditions, indeed that issue still exists in some maintenence chargers.
    I am surprised that an Oxford product would do it though.

    The newest Optimate Four has a CanBus option on it, which you wont need.

    I have the standard Optimate Four, easy to use, reasonable price and no cold feedback problems (within reason).

    Like you, i only use the lead acid type batteries in all my bikes, but am slowly coming round to the idea of other Lithium ones like Motabatt etc.
    So i suppose one day i will have to bite the bullet and get a lithium compatible charger...

    But yeah, cant recommend the Optimate Four (basic one) enough.
    Last Edit: 12 Nov 23, 11:29:21 by Timmy_Biker

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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #2 on: 12 Nov 23, 03:30:12
    12 Nov 23, 03:30:12
    Thanks.  I might look at something lithium compatible for future proofing purposes.  That will be very much dependent on how much more expensive they are.  I don't see a need to change to a lithium battery but might relook at that one day.
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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #3 on: 12 Nov 23, 04:52:01
    12 Nov 23, 04:52:01
    +1 for Optimate 4.

    Had it two years and never let me down.

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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #4 on: 12 Nov 23, 07:42:20
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    I have both lithium battery and Optimate for it.
    I don't leave it on trickle charger mode, just on for 2 hrs, twice a week  :028:
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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #5 on: 14 Nov 23, 04:51:29
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    Optimate together with a gel battery.

    The two work so well together  :028:

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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #6 on: 15 Nov 23, 12:16:37
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    I have both a Oximiser 900 and a Noco Genius G3500UK.

    The oximiser is basic but works as long as the battery is above 11(ish)V.
    The Noco is superb and has recovered a battery below 10v that is still going strong after over a year. It charges all types of battery including Lithium - which is why I got it. It also has two different charging routines for small (up to 35Ah) or large (up to 120Ah) batteries and I've used it succesfully on a large car battery. I've had this since 2017 and it has more than paid for itself.
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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #7 on: 16 Nov 23, 09:45:01
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    *Originally Posted by plodgeman [+]
    Optimate together with a gel battery.

    The two work so well together  :028:
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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #8 on: 22 Nov 23, 12:55:24
    22 Nov 23, 12:55:24
    I have both, an Optimate and a C-Tek. The Optimate must be 10 years old so not sure what version it is, but it still works fine. The C-Tek is more expensive but not by much and it too is very good. The thing I like about the C-Tek is that it can be used on both cars and bikes, with a simple press of a button. If you select bike it charges at a lower rate and if you selct car it charges at a higher rate, and is switchable for different types of batteries (lead acid, gel etc.). I am happy with both which I leave on all winter, usually with the Optimate on the bike and the C-Tek on the car as I don't use either very much during the winter but it is nice to have a fully charged battery when I do!  :028:

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    Re: Ctek Vs Optimate vs other
    Reply #9 on: 31 Dec 23, 09:01:52
    31 Dec 23, 09:01:52
    I thought I owed an update:  On the strength of the recommendations here and some other research I decided to get the Optimate 4 so I specc'd it for a Christmas present and was rewarded with said present from my son.

    I have now swapped the oximiser out with the new optimate 4 and we shall see how we go.
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