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Z1000SX Chat => Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring Issues => Topic started by: maccmike on 15 Jan 16, 06:11:18

Title: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Jan 16, 06:11:18
A couple of weeks ago I was out at night and I had forgotten how poor the lights are on the SX and it is time to do something about it. On my previous SX I fitted HID projectors which was a pain in the proverbial and not strictly legal, even though it did pass the MOT, so didn't want to go down that route again. Thought about the H7R bulb in the reflector and didn't fancy that either. So I looked into LED headlight bulbs and these are the ones I settled on and thought that I would give them a try. To say I am impressed is an understatement. At the moment I have only tried them in a spare headlamp I got just in case the HIDs failed the MOT on previous bike. The only problem was an adapter was necessary for the spring clip to bear upon. Other than that fitting them seems to be a reasonably straightforward job. Can't wait to try them properly. Please excuse photography, never claimed to be David Bailey. The halogen are Osram nightbreakers by the way, not standard ones.


http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps/h7-5th-gen-4000-lumens (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps/h7-5th-gen-4000-lumens)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Jan 16, 06:13:58
More pictures. Dip beam.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Jan 16, 06:14:58
More pics. Main beam.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: KD on 15 Jan 16, 06:24:32
Look great Mike...  But at £140 you would hope so.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Jan 16, 06:29:40
There are cheaper ones Dave, one kit is £89.95, and it is still over twice the light output, 3200 lumens as against 1500 lumens for halogens. But I wanted the most I could get so I went for the 4000 lumen one.

http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 15 Jan 16, 09:01:50
Was the adapter included in price?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Jan 16, 09:40:40
Unfortunately not, I made the adapter myself, but if anyone wants some it could be arranged. Alternatively there are probably something similar on ebay because I think they are needed for HID bulbs some forum members have installed.

Forgot on earlier posts, other advantages are:-
Less than half power draw for over twice output, LED 25 watts 4000 lumens, Halogen 55 watts 1500 lumens.
Immediate full brightness unlike HID so good for main beam
Expected life LED 30,000 hours, HID 2,000 hours, Halogen 450 to 1000 hours.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 16 Jan 16, 01:07:48
From the photos this looks to be a superb improvement. However, where does this adaptor thingy go?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 16 Jan 16, 06:54:40
Looks like a massive improvement Mike  :028:

I'm interested in your decision making process, there's such a wide range available,  what made you choose these ones in particular and do you think it will pass the mot with this setup?

Thanks
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 16 Jan 16, 07:05:01
*Originally Posted by whyhaveone [+]
From the photos this looks to be a superb improvement. However, where does this adaptor thingy go?
The adapter is necessary for the spring clip to work/hold it in place.
You see why when you have to change a normal bulb. I normally use a flat blade screwdriver to lever the H7 of the adapter socket. :)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 16 Jan 16, 12:33:22
*Originally Posted by whyhaveone [+]
From the photos this looks to be a superb improvement. However, where does this adaptor thingy go?

As MDR says the adapter is necessary for the spring clip to bear upon and hold the bulb in place. The standard halogen bulbs plug into the adapter pictured and the spring clip bears upon that. Without it the bulb is loose.

*Originally Posted by Foxy [+]
Looks like a massive improvement Mike  :028:

I'm interested in your decision making process, there's such a wide range available,  what made you choose these ones in particular and do you think it will pass the mot with this setup?

Thanks

In the past I have done many mods to headlights as they never have been very good on bikes and most still are poor. At first I tried cheap ones off ebay and these almost without exception failed in one way or another, sometimes quite spectacularly. On my first SX one HID ballast actually set on fire while filling up at a petrol station in Wales, but fortunately no damage to the bike or petrol station. I looked around for a more reputable company and purchased off them, fitted the Bi-xenon Projector HIDs and they were great and are still going strongly.
I didn't want to go down the same path with the LEDs, ie didn't want them to set on fire or buy cheap off ebay although there are some good looking products on there at very reasonable price plus the projectors were a pain in the a**e to install. So I searched for what appears to be a reputable company, only time will tell, and maybe paid a bit through the nose for them, but at least if there is a problem there is a point of contact and they have answered questions reasonably quickly.
As far as the MOT is concerned I have very little doubt they will be OK. The beam pattern is very similar and this can be adjusted if necessary. Also it is a very easy job to put them back to standard if necessary.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 16 Jan 16, 03:49:20
Your last picture of an adapter
Is this one from eBay, or frim the company u bought led kit from?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 16 Jan 16, 05:33:22
*Originally Posted by Beckyboo [+]
Your last picture of an adapter
Is this one from eBay, or frim the company u bought led kit from?

No, that is the standard one that is in the bike headlight from new. This needs to be replaced as the LED is to big at the rear to accommodate it and the spring clip that holds the headlight bulb in place doesn't bear down on the bulb on it's own enough to hold it in.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Bobdave on 19 Jan 16, 06:47:43
MaccMike, what a great mod. I ride a lot at night and can only say how disappointing the standard lights are.

Any chance of a side view photo of the adapter you have made and maybe an idea of the measurement of the width. I'd be happy to have a go making one but like to know the dimensions before I start (no point in getting the shape right if it's too thick or too many thin!)

What did you make the adapter from ?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 19 Jan 16, 09:21:17
*Originally Posted by Bobdave [+]
MaccMike, what a great mod. I ride a lot at night and can only say how disappointing the standard lights are.

Any chance of a side view photo of the adapter you have made and maybe an idea of the measurement of the width. I'd be happy to have a go making one but like to know the dimensions before I start (no point in getting the shape right if it's too thick or too many thin!)

What did you make the adapter from ?

Hi Bobdave, made it out of some 6mm aluminium plate I had lying around my garage, just lucky the thickness worked out OK without any further work. Diameter is 34mm, hole is 20mm, and then hand filed the top to fit into headlamp notch.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Bobdave on 19 Jan 16, 10:04:43
Thanks MaccMike. Think I'll have a go at doing making some and fitting these bulbs.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 20 Jan 16, 11:34:04
Hi MaccMike, have u tried the lights on a night ride yet.
I am seriously considering the bulbs but would just like
To hear if your results are good.

Chris
Ken
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 20 Jan 16, 12:43:18
*Originally Posted by Beckyboo [+]
Hi MaccMike, have u tried the lights on a night ride yet.
I am seriously considering the bulbs but would just like
To hear if your results are good.

Chris
Ken
Hi Ken, no not yet, only installed them yesterday, initial pictures done with spare headlamp unit. But weather today looks reasonably good so might get out and try them this evening. Will report as soon as been out in the dark.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 20 Jan 16, 12:51:26
I wait with baited breath  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 20 Jan 16, 06:12:51
Bait your breath no longer Ken. I have just got back home after an approximately 12 mile run on unlit country lanes and A roads and I am really impressed with these lights. After about 5 miles and no one had flashed me I pulled over and adjusted the headlights up a touch. The result was brilliant and once again no angry cagers flashing at me. I could even see the verges quite well on dip and on main beam everything was very well lit. They are expensive but IMO well worth it, especially if you do quite a bit of night riding. I have no regrets spending £140 -5% on these and I am not aregular night rider, but I would not be afraid of going out in the dark now. I am not sure without seeing the two side by side but I think these are better than the xenon projectors I fitted to my previous SX
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Chris1479 on 20 Jan 16, 08:18:22
It's a pity there's no way of purchasing the adapters from somewhere - I'm not exactly handy with a drill, saw & file unfortunately  :019:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 20 Jan 16, 08:39:12
*Originally Posted by Chris1479 [+]
It's a pity there's no way of purchasing the adapters from somewhere - I'm not exactly handy with a drill, saw & file unfortunately  :019:

As I said earlier in the thread, I can make and post the adapters if any interest is shown.  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 20 Jan 16, 11:51:29
Buy some of ebay, same as HID installers have done. Check some other headlight upgrade threads.
Unless Mike is saying these are more bespoke!?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 21 Jan 16, 08:34:43
One last question b4 I rush off and buy,
the £130 is that for 2 bulbs?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 21 Jan 16, 08:52:25
Cancel my last thread, I read add for lights properly and can see it is for both.

Would u be able too knock me up a couple of adapters, :440:
I am not too proud too say my metalwork skills are not brilliant
Can send money to cover by Paypal
Thanks :828:
Ken
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 21 Jan 16, 09:12:22
Buy some of ebay, same as HID installers have done. Check some other headlight upgrade threads.
Unless Mike is saying these are more bespoke!?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-Toyota-Celica-Aftermarket-HID-Xenon-Conversion-Kit-Holders-Adaptors-1-x-Pair-/331542179174?hash=item4d31742d66:g:ebAAAOSwBLlVQPLS (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-Toyota-Celica-Aftermarket-HID-Xenon-Conversion-Kit-Holders-Adaptors-1-x-Pair-/331542179174?hash=item4d31742d66:g:ebAAAOSwBLlVQPLS)

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Chris1479 on 21 Jan 16, 10:07:37
Put us out of our misery Mike......can the adapters be purchased from eBay & if so would you be able to provide a link so we buy the correct ones!

 :440:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 Jan 16, 10:19:23
Those adapters on ebay would have to be cut down whereas mine fit straight in with no modification and at £6 per pair posted are a real bargain.  :028:

*Originally Posted by Beckyboo [+]

Would u be able too knock me up a couple of adapters, :440:
I am not too proud too say my metalwork skills are not brilliant
Can send money to cover by Paypal
Thanks :828:
Ken

No problem Ken, I have enough material for 2 more so will make them today.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 21 Jan 16, 10:51:18
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Those adapters on ebay would have to be cut down whereas mine fit straight in with no modification and at £6 per pair posted are a real bargain.  :028:

For anyone else thinking about this mod, the ebay adapters are plastic and easily trimmed down to size with a sharp Stanley blade. Will take no more than 2mins!  :028:

Remember to trim it before you fit the bulb to it!!  :164: :008:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 21 Jan 16, 12:16:20
Could u take a few pics showing figment of bulbs and
Placement of spacer
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 21 Jan 16, 01:16:48
*Originally Posted by Beckyboo [+]
Could u take a few pics showing figment of bulbs and
Placement of spacer

I put up a few pics when I installed my HID. I personally think you are OVER thinking this. It is really simple and pretty obvious when you have the bits in your hands ready for install - HONEST!!  :028:

As a little experiment for yourself, take out one of your headlights, then simply look at a brand new H7 bulb, you'll see the adapter the bulb slots into, which is then held in place by the spring clip. You'll need a flat blade screwdriver to pry it off - DO NOT touch the glass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The plastic adapter, or indeed Mike's bespoke solution, simply replaces the OEM adapter so the spring clip can hold the bulb in place inside the headlight module!  :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 Jan 16, 01:32:47
Don't forget the LED bulbs have a large heat sink on the rear unlike the HID bulb.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 21 Jan 16, 01:53:18
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Don't forget the LED bulbs have a large heat sink on the rear unlike the HID bulb.

Ahh...that's the missing info that's been asked for previously  :oh_no: - So they do require something more bespoke, since they are not a direct replacement like the HID alternatives.  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Bobdave on 21 Jan 16, 09:32:53
Hey MaccMike, If you can do another pair of the adapters I'll happily have them off you and then I can improve my lights. Send me a message and let me know how you want paying etc if you can do them. Cheers.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 Jan 16, 10:16:46
No problem mate, will PM you.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Bobdave on 21 Jan 16, 10:48:09
Message received and responded to. Cheers.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Djsaints on 22 Jan 16, 01:45:30
@maccmike

Hi Mike - PM received and replied to.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Chris1479 on 22 Jan 16, 03:02:59
I'd happily pay for some Adapters if that's possible? Feel cheeky &a lazy asking but I'd rather know they will definitely fit  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 22 Jan 16, 03:04:21
Ahh hell... why not... Mike if you have the spare time and any material left would you kindly knock two out for me please? PayPal or BT?

Many thanks

Stevo

Ps. I've fixed up the bike now, new clutch cover, frame slider, exhaust couplers & bracket, etc.... new oil & filter... (can't get the bar end off though need an impact driver as its ba****d tight) then found some cool 501 led side lamps and single xenon lamp kit in a draw that I intended to fit yonks ago but of course never got round too  :008: long story short, side lamps great, xenon kit is bulk standard car xenon kit and no adaptor!! Thought about drilling a hole in the middle of the original spacer/adaptor (as the xenon lamp is hard wired and the wire needs to pass-thru the adaptor) but now think I'll save the lamp in case the car xenon pops and get the rather lovely Horizon LED's! Good spot Mike  :062:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 22 Jan 16, 03:13:24
Another quick question bud, you've taken the headlight off the bike in the picture (it looks like), did you need to do that to fit the new led lamps? I've got all the fairing off at mo and just unbolted the coolant expansion bottle to gain pretty good access to the lamp?

Ta

Stevo
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 22 Jan 16, 03:22:31
*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
Another quick question bud, you've taken the headlight off the bike in the picture (it looks like), did you need to do that to fit the new led lamps? I've got all the fairing off at mo and just unbolted the coolant expansion bottle to gain pretty good access to the lamp?

Ta

Stevo

I think (reading back) Mike did a pre-fit to a headlight module he already had. ie. Off the bike!
Happy to be corrected though if I'm wrong!  :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 22 Jan 16, 06:15:04
Is one of the Horizon led's rated higher output than the other? Ie. for high beam. And I see the 'heat sink' is reversible. Does it lock into place, or does it feel it could possibly vibrate loose/off?

Stevo
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 22 Jan 16, 09:47:58
*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
Ahh hell... why not... Mike if you have the spare time and any material left would you kindly knock two out for me please? PayPal or BT?


PM sent.

*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
Another quick question bud, you've taken the headlight off the bike in the picture (it looks like), did you need to do that to fit the new led lamps? I've got all the fairing off at mo and just unbolted the coolant expansion bottle to gain pretty good access to the lamp?

Ta

Stevo

As MDR says, I have a spare headlamp which I got just in case I had problems with MOT on my previous SX which I fitted Bi-Xenon projector HIDs to.

*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
Is one of the Horizon led's rated higher output than the other? Ie. for high beam. And I see the 'heat sink' is reversible. Does it lock into place, or does it feel it could possibly vibrate loose/off?

Stevo

Both LEDs are the same, ie 25w 4000 lumens, much the same as the halogens are both H7 55w 1500 lumens. The heat sink is reversible but can only be used in the longer position. The little booklet that came with the kit shows a grub screw to lock the heat sink but there wasn't one in either of mine. I wasn't bothered about this because, as I tightened it, it rubbed against the spring lightly which sort of acted like a ratchet and will be enough to stop it coming undone, although I will be checking it from time to time. There is a hole for a grub screw and if a problem arises I would think it is a fairly easy job to fit one.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 22 Jan 16, 10:28:01
Thanks Mike

That really is too good of you!  :820:  look forward to receiving them!

I did earlier this evening discover that the heat sinks are held via grub screws from a pic on the bay... but as you say it's not a bit deal to fit a grub screw in at a later date. And again, I personally wouldn't order them from Oz to save £20 (which I'd probably get hit in tax anyhow)!

Did you put the large rubber shroud back over the lamp entry housing/hole? Either before or after the heat sink?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 23 Jan 16, 01:13:56
*Originally Posted by stevo [+]

Did you put the large rubber shroud back over the lamp entry housing/hole? Either before or after the heat sink?


Yes I did put the rubber shroud back after fitting the bulb/heat sink, but pushed the middle of it outwards away from the heat sink and it fits fine. was wondering about getting some grommets to fill the hole in the shroud as only the cable is coming through it now but haven't come across any yet.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 23 Jan 16, 07:00:22
That's good news that it still fits! Will continue to stop water and/or dust penetration.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Djsaints on 29 Jan 16, 05:58:48
Hi Mike

Just to let you know they've arrived safely

Thanks again

 :828:

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Beckyboo on 29 Jan 16, 08:39:34
Just want to say  :828:to Mike for my spacers, arrived yesterday and I have to say look great/well made
Pics don't do them justice
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 29 Jan 16, 08:44:32
Dito!  :062:  Many thanks Mike! Got too much going on at moment so I fitted the HID kit I had sitting around and used the ally spacer which worked a treat!

Stevo
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 29 Jan 16, 10:06:48
Glad you all got them OK and are happy with them.  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: eeno on 01 Feb 16, 01:37:21
Hi Guys , please have a look at this...
http://youtu.be/juMfKH8OSA8 (http://youtu.be/juMfKH8OSA8)

 :431:I know I posted it under general , just thought it fit better here.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 02 Feb 16, 05:40:20
*Originally Posted by stevo [+]

Did you put the large rubber shroud back over the lamp entry housing/hole? Either before or after the heat sink?

*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Yes I did put the rubber shroud back after fitting the bulb/heat sink, but pushed the middle of it outwards away from the heat sink and it fits fine. was wondering about getting some grommets to fill the hole in the shroud as only the cable is coming through it now but haven't come across any yet.

Small change, probably because I'm a compulsive fiddler (only with things on my bike I feel I must add). Made a small spacer so heat sink is now outside the rubber cover. This has two reasons, 1 - rubber cover now seals on outside surface of spacer, 2 - heat sink more efficient as in outside air.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 02 Feb 16, 06:37:05
tut tut mike..... very disappointed there's no install picture!  :164:

Good job!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: roconne1982 on 02 Feb 16, 06:39:20
Just out of interest. Does everyone else see the little emoji's ??

All i see is :164:


Doesn't have the same effect I'm sure


Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 03 Mar 16, 09:52:44
Hi maccmike
Which ones give the best light. The dual HID projectors or the single LED reflector?
Because retrofitlabs makes nice projector kits.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 04 Mar 16, 10:56:30
*Originally Posted by fallenwout [+]
Hi maccmike
Which ones give the best light. The dual HID projectors or the single LED reflector?
Because retrofitlabs makes nice projector kits.


Have to say the HID projectors give the best light, probably because they are both lit all the time being bi-xenon, ie dip and main in both projectors. The only down side with the projectors are that they are a sod to fit. I fitted one of the retrofitlabs Morimoto kits to one of the guy's bike on here and it was a little easier than the one I fitted on mine as it was slightly smaller but it was still a pain in the a**e but the end result of both was phenomenal.
The LED bulbs are great and give out a very good light, but as you say, dip is still only one headlight. Plus you still have the limitations of a crap reflector. I don't do enough night time riding to warrant going down the projector path again, this is why I tried the LED route.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 16 Apr 16, 11:00:06
Hi Mike

After several weeks I received my lights from Horizon and decided to install them this morning. Hit a snag however, which I'm hoping you had a work-a-round for!

The H7 female connection on the bike does not fit the much smaller plug on the LED??? Do I have the wrong lamps or did you work this out?

Steve
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: KD on 16 Apr 16, 11:08:51
*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
Hi Mike

After several (10+ weeks) I received my lights from Horizon and decided to install them this morning. Hit a snag however, which I'm hoping you had a work-a-round for!

The H7 female connection on the bike does not fit the much smaller plug on the LED??? Do I have the wrong lamps or did you work this out?

Steve

It might be better to put a photo of your problem on here, if you can Stevo.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 16 Apr 16, 11:14:33
Plug the LEDs into the adapter and the headlamp plug into the other end of the adapter. Haven't found a way round this yet but still looking.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 16 Apr 16, 11:20:14
Distance between pins.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 16 Apr 16, 11:21:38
Sorry Mike I'm not with you??? Come again pls??
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 16 Apr 16, 01:47:46
Ahh... right... pulled through my own stupidy and came out the other side a wiser man!  :018:

Mike my apologise if you already posted this and I missed it, thanks for helping out so quick both of you.

It took me a while to suss' it but just as I decided to put the original oem lamp back in I thought I'd check the writing on the back of the lamp to see if it was indeed an H7 fitment and as I pulled the lamp away from the oem lamp spacer... it all became obvious! The oem lamp spacer/holder is a form of reducer and it's this you'll have to use (unless you're prepared to cut into either the led loom/plug or cut into the oem H7 female plug and make a connection between the two without the adaptor).

Other than this hiccup, have to say it's a sweet, easy install and as the power pack is so small for the led lamp, it's very easy to hide and/or fit.

I didn't bother fitting the other lamp in the box as I think it's a bit of a waste of time as I rarely flash people (but I'll keep it in case I either decide to bi-lamp the bike or more likely get a second bike and fit it on that).

But a picture tells a thousand words, so...

Steve

...

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 16 Apr 16, 02:29:26
Well done that man. Think most of us have been there first time we replace a bulb! ;)   :)

Sent from my smartphone, please excuse any spelling mistakes!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 16 Apr 16, 02:39:44
ha ha fugg off!!  :008:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 17 Apr 16, 01:04:04
Stevo, sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday, but I had to answer quickly as I was just about to leave on my son's stag do and answered your query in a bit of a hurry therefore wasn't very clear with my answer. Anyway seems you are sorted now but if I come up with anything better I will let you know. Don't want to mess with OEM wiring just in case I want to put it back to original and I think you are of the same mind with that.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 17 Apr 16, 01:38:22
Hi Mike

No bother at all!  :028: Yes I agree... I'm not prepared to permanently mod stuff unless I can quickly (or fuss free) put it all back in oem order.

I removed the HID light I installed a few months ago (which was brighter) but I started getting paranoid about the loom catching fire in a petrol station  :008:  And the fact my battery required replacing sooner than normal which I feel obliged to attribute towards the HID also, so followed your lead and fitted the LED option!

Stevo

Ps. 1xHID light kit with bracket For Sale - £10! (inc. del). But you really should wire a light bypass switch!!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 18 Apr 16, 12:05:58


*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
I removed the HID light I installed a few months ago (which was brighter)

So hid's are brigther? Thought the specs of lumen said otherwise.

*Originally Posted by stevo [+]
But you really should wire a light bypass switch!!
Why? We already have a timeout relay.


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Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 18 Apr 16, 06:31:52
*Originally Posted by fallenwout [+]

So hid's are brigther? Thought the specs of lumen said otherwise.
Why? We already have a timeout relay.

Hi Fallout

The specs only tell part of the story, xenon's give a more distinct white light (not that LED is bad of course) but the xenon definitely gives a greater field of light and catches the eye better.

On my Z (2012 model) when I press the start button the bike not only pulls a lot of current starting the bike but also instantly draws on the battery for a high in-rush of current to start the xenon light (well it did until I swapped out)!

This is not only bad for the battery but the wiring loom is (for a few seconds at least) drawing far more current than it's rated for. It could go for yonks without ever showing signs of overheating, or I could be one of the unlucky ones that suffers from fire damage. Just airing on side of caution.

Steve
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 18 Apr 16, 07:21:32
Wouldn't this work instead of a switch?
http://retro-solutions.net/product-info.php?HID_Time_Delay_Relay-pid602.html

It is 15$

If i put a switch in between, i would definitely be riding without a light half the time by accident.

Sent from Tapatalk

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: stevo on 18 Apr 16, 08:27:57
Yes that would definitely work... if you have the time and inclination! I'm afraid I'm too long in the tooth for some mods now, especially if they require a major effort to return back to oem status.

Good find however  :028:

Steve
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: john on 22 Apr 16, 07:48:42
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Small change, probably because I'm a compulsive fiddler (only with things on my bike I feel I must add). Made a small spacer so heat sink is now outside the rubber cover. This has two reasons, 1 - rubber cover now seals on outside surface of spacer, 2 - heat sink more efficient as in outside air.

Hi Mike,
Are you still making the adapters and the spacer? Im keen to improve the lights as they are shocking!
Cheers.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: john on 22 Apr 16, 09:18:40
Just found this- http://www.aurorabulbs.com/products/philips-lumileds-g7-led-4000-lumens-headlight-conversion-kit?variant=10675313475 (http://www.aurorabulbs.com/products/philips-lumileds-g7-led-4000-lumens-headlight-conversion-kit?variant=10675313475)

Is it the same type and will it fit? if you enter the discount "summer" its down to £97.71.
John.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: On one wheel on 22 Apr 16, 10:48:30
Hmmmm...... they may melt your headlight   :005:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 22 Apr 16, 11:23:14
*Originally Posted by john [+]
Hi Mike,
Are you still making the adapters and the spacer? Im keen to improve the lights as they are shocking!
Cheers.
Hi John, yes I can make a pair of adapters for you when I get back home. Now discarded the spacer as I don't think it is necessary. Those from Aurora look very similar to the ones from Horizon and may be even better being 7th generation.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 23 Apr 16, 05:45:49
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Hi John, yes I can make a pair of adapters for you when I get back home. Now discarded the spacer as I don't think it is necessary. Those from Aurora look very similar to the ones from Horizon and may be even better being 7th generation.

Hi Mike,

Can I be cheeky and ask for a pair too please?  I understand if you don't want to spend all your time making these so no problem if not, but pm me if you can with payment details and I'll transfer the money.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 23 Apr 16, 09:11:01
No problem, will sort it when I return from Ireland ride.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: On one wheel on 23 Apr 16, 09:12:48
Oy Mike, stop texting and get out and ride your bike (im not jealous at all of course  :019: )
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 25 Apr 16, 11:59:26
*Originally Posted by john [+]
Hi Mike,
Are you still making the adapters and the spacer? Im keen to improve the lights as they are shocking!
Cheers.

*Originally Posted by Foxy [+]
Hi Mike,

Can I be cheeky and ask for a pair too please?  I understand if you don't want to spend all your time making these so no problem if not, but pm me if you can with payment details and I'll transfer the money.

Thanks in advance.

Didn't have quite enough metal so ordered some more which should be here soon then I can make them up and get them shipped. Will keep you posted.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: On one wheel on 25 Apr 16, 12:33:28
Mikes workshop will soon be on "pimp my ride"  :164:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 25 Apr 16, 01:44:15
*Originally Posted by On one wheel [+]
Mikes workshop will soon be on "pimp my ride"  :164:

They have tried, but I had to turn them down. Their disappointment was overwhelming.  :745:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: john on 25 Apr 16, 09:40:11
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Didn't have quite enough metal so ordered some more which should be here soon then I can make them up and get them shipped. Will keep you posted.

Brilliant. Just PM me with you retails and I will paypal you.
Cheers,

John.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 25 Apr 16, 10:20:26
*Originally Posted by john [+]
Brilliant. Just PM me with you retails and I will paypal you.
Cheers,

John.
+1 but details, not retails  :008:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: john on 25 Apr 16, 10:22:49
*Originally Posted by Foxy [+]
+1 but details, not retails  :008:

Smart arse  :047: I thought it was a shop  :008:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 25 Apr 16, 10:25:18
Mike will be able to open one soon at this rate.

Bulbs ordered  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: john on 25 Apr 16, 10:34:09
*Originally Posted by Foxy [+]
Mike will be able to open one soon at this rate.

Bulbs ordered  :028:

Yep mine also  :062:
Did you go for the Aurora ones?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 26 Apr 16, 06:26:33
 Sure did, a package arrived today but i was at work. Will collect tomorrow  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 02 May 16, 08:18:31
Fitted my LED this evening. Quality kit and all tucks away nicely. Much better than the HID kit I tried a few months back. This allows you to keep everything nice and tidy and the unit still sealed with the rubber boot.

I did order some spacers from Mike but slipped up with the delivery to work, forgetting I was off today. Couldn't wait and realised that sticking a cable tie around the bulb provides a suitable area for the light clip to keep the bulb in place. Will put the proper adapter on later in the week.

A few pics of the install.

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_185654_zpskxpwb3gh.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_185654_zpskxpwb3gh.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_185732_zpsis3ycpxh.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_185732_zpsis3ycpxh.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190154_zpsjmdhjvhk.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190154_zpsjmdhjvhk.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190311_zpsmvbkqs94.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190311_zpsmvbkqs94.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190336_zps3usmtyyq.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190336_zps3usmtyyq.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190514_zpsap1zaoqt.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190514_zpsap1zaoqt.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190637_zpsbifgmolx.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190637_zpsbifgmolx.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190857_zpskyv9ncjf.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190857_zpskyv9ncjf.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_191823_zpszkf11ogf.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_191823_zpszkf11ogf.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_191829_zps2bdjwwx0.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_191829_zps2bdjwwx0.jpg.html)

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_185215_zps86y9ouly.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_185215_zps86y9ouly.jpg.html)



Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jedi Z on 02 May 16, 08:42:15
You guys will have to keep us updated on the lifecycle of the LED bulbs,
would be interesting to see if they last longer than filament bulbs or if they burn themselves out prematurely  :027:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: john on 06 May 16, 09:50:58
Big thanks to Mike for the adapters, spot on fit and look really tidy. Fitted it all together after work tonight, going for a ride tomorrow night so will be interesting to see how much safer it is with the upgrade.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tracktime on 23 Jun 16, 08:54:41
As I want to convert both lights to hi/lo would these be the correct ones to purchase?


H7 (Hi/Lo) CREE Headlight LED Kit - 3500 Lumens (V2)

I used the site query page but after 10 days got no response so gave up with them
Thank you
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 23 Jun 16, 09:52:47
I'm fairly sure this will only be the same as standard, ie right hand headlamp dip beam and left main beam, but with far better light output. As far as I am aware there is no way of both headlamps giving dip and main beam short of fitting bi-xenon projectors.
 
http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-gen2-v2 (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-gen2-v2)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 21 Aug 16, 11:13:58
Just fitted a set of the Horizon LEDs. Easy to install - in fact the hardest part was deciding where to stick the ballasts - I opted to stick them to the top of the light module under the centre cowling. I couldn't get to the grub screw on the heatsinks though.

HIDs on my first SX; didn't help the driver see me coming along the road before she pulled out... SMIDSY
So this time I have opted for the LEDs. What's the chances that drivers will see me next time? :(
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Paul_Smith on 29 Aug 16, 12:34:49
*Originally Posted by tracktime [+]
As I want to convert both lights to hi/lo would these be the correct ones to purchase?


H7 (Hi/Lo) CREE Headlight LED Kit - 3500 Lumens (V2)

I used the site query page but after 10 days got no response so gave up with them
Thank you
It doesn't work that way, I am afraid. The (Hi/Lo) in the bulb description just means it can be used in either role but it is the reflector not the bulb that controls if it is high beam or low beam. You have to change the reflectors to change their function.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tracktime on 30 Aug 16, 08:40:12
Many thanks Paul
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 02 Sep 16, 04:48:50
Hi, I've just purchased the H7 v2 LEDs linked above and may have encountered a problem which I'm hoping someone else has already solved, or, that you guys can help me with?

They are a different design... And thus size.
I've attached the drawings for each from HL's website for reference.

Mike's version is just over a mm shorter from the flange to the tip, which means this version is fouling the internal 'thing' causing an overhang of approximately 8mm if positioned on the centre. So I'm not sure the spring will close even if I add a spacer.

Without a spacer the spring will close, however, the best fit is by slightly angling the bulb to the fatter (outside) edge of the deflector 'thing'.
Which begs the question will this be OK in the road?

So *Sigh* what do you guys think? I expected some fudging, but this is on the upper limit of what I think is acceptable.

I also hope this highlights to potential buyers that the fit is not the same as the OP, even though it's a 'New' version, and the issues I've had fitting them so far.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 02 Sep 16, 05:07:43
You could always make a spacer to go in front of the flange?
I opted for the 5th Generation, and these fit perfectly. Didn't have this bother.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 02 Sep 16, 05:18:50
*Originally Posted by Jase [+]
You could always make a spacer to go in front of the flange?
I opted for the 5th Generation, and these fit perfectly. Didn't have this bother.

Yep that's what I was wondering but the distance between the headlight housing and the flange is 8mm, which means the spring may not attach once the LED and spacer are inserted.

I saw your post and presumed you bought the v2's, I realise now you didn't  :oh_no:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 02 Sep 16, 05:24:00
the mm that you are gaining from the use of the flange spacer, why not reduce the H7 spacer by that very mm?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 02 Sep 16, 05:48:12
Don't have this problem, but knocked up a spacer to push the bulb back 2mm. It works fine with an ordinary bulb so should be OK with your LED. Not sure how it will affect beam pattern though, but worth a try.

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_44807123a8e20a3db421.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 03 Sep 16, 08:06:39
So, they are now installed. And I can definitively say DO NOT BUY http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-gen2-v2 (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-gen2-v2) as they are not really an acceptable fit, and may not give an acceptable beam pattern.

In the end I used 6mm ply wood (I'd recommend using something more solid, but it's the first thing I saw hanging around in the shed) a 38mm hole saw and a 22mm wood drill bit - which actually worked to good effect. I then needed to add a 2mm rubber washer to increase the space which I made. It's worth noting there was no washer supplied with this kit. It's ended up a bit Heath Robinson, but they're in and secure, and produce good clean white light.

As Jase has said the 5th gen are a perfect fit, do not consider the v2's that I bought.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 03 Sep 16, 08:15:18
*Originally Posted by DaveV2.0 [+]
So, they are now installed. And I can definitively say DO NOT BUY http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-gen2-v2 (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-gen2-v2) as they are not really an acceptable fit, and may not give an acceptable beam pattern.

In the end I used 6mm ply wood (I'd recommend using something more solid, but it's the first thing I saw hanging around in the shed) a 38mm hole saw and a 22mm wood drill bit - which actually worked to good effect. I then needed to add a 2mm rubber washer to increase the space which I made. It's worth noting there was no washer supplied with this kit. It's ended up a bit Heath Robinson, but they're in and secure, and produce good clean white light.

As Jase has said the 5th gen are a perfect fit, do not consider the v2's that I bought.



The housings get quite hot so not sure how rubber and wood wiĺl stand up to it. Personally would use aluminium or similar to stand up to the heat and transfer it better to the housing to dissipate excess heat build up.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 03 Sep 16, 08:32:47
Hmmm I see your point. This is turning out to be a big pain in the ass. I'll keep my eye on them for now, but they may end up being an expensive write off (or stick them on evil bay for a car owner).

I also wish I saw Jase's post about Horizon LED's as I'd also warn against using them (and think it's probably a good idea to post it on here to, for those - like me - who only checked this sub for lighting info).
I ordered the side lights and indicators from them too. The indicator fell apart on removal, and the side lights are an extra 10 days delivery. They informed me about this on the delivery note, asked me to email them - which I did - and then haven't replied.

I won't buy from them again.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 08 Sep 16, 12:08:33
Personally not had a problem with Horizon either with service or products, but it seems I have been lucky. Also they seem to be relatively expensive so don't think I will be using them again either.

If you want aluminium spacers I can make up a set for you. I have supplied several forum members and I only charge what it costs me.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: petert on 08 Sep 16, 05:19:50
Is it two H7 bulbs you need for the lights?
 :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 08 Sep 16, 05:38:22
*Originally Posted by petert [+]
Is it two H7 bulbs you need for the lights?
 :828:
Yes. or H7R's if they are HIDs
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 09 Sep 16, 07:18:04
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
If you want aluminium spacers I can make up a set for you. I have supplied several forum members and I only charge what it costs me.

Thanks for the offer. I might take you up on that but I have one more solution I'd like to try first.
Also, I don't know why but the size of spacer required seems disproportionately larger for my application than yours.  :187: The bulbs I have do not sit flush (as we've established) but mine have to come back around 8mm in order to sit in the 'correct' position within the light assembly. Whereas yours seem to only need to come back a  couple of mm. I can't really think why, unless they've reduced the length of the deflector in the light assembly itself; which is unlikely imo as I don't think it's changed since 2013 (correct me if I'm wrong).
One last thing, at the moment, the beam pattern seems quite high. I've not had motorists irritated by it yet, and it may change when it's pulled back enough, but I wonder whether it's a feature of this LED kit only projecting upwards.

The saga continues...
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 09 Sep 16, 08:06:56
If you watch this video : : it explains how to set up your lights correctly, and the measurements to use.
Use the information to check how the throw of light is.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 09 Sep 16, 08:28:03
Great video! Really useful.
This should be a sticky by itself imo.  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 09 Sep 16, 11:29:56
*Originally Posted by DaveV2.0 [+]
Thanks for the offer. I might take you up on that but I have one more solution I'd like to try first.
Also, I don't know why but the size of spacer required seems disproportionately larger for my application than yours.  :187: The bulbs I have do not sit flush (as we've established) but mine have to come back around 8mm in order to sit in the 'correct' position within the light assembly. Whereas yours seem to only need to come back a  couple of mm. I can't really think why, unless they've reduced the length of the deflector in the light assembly itself; which is unlikely imo as I don't think it's changed since 2013 (correct me if I'm wrong).
One last thing, at the moment, the beam pattern seems quite high. I've not had motorists irritated by it yet, and it may change when it's pulled back enough, but I wonder whether it's a feature of this LED kit only projecting upwards.

The saga continues...
Bit confused here, why when the bulb length is only 1.06mm longer than the one I have does it have to come backwards 8mm. Surely it only needs to push back about 2mm to clear the internal shield. In mine they aren't moved backwards at all and mount direct into the reflector with a spacer behind to take the place of the plastic adapter for the spring to bear onto. Are you spacing it far enough back so the spring bears directly onto the bulb? If you don't mind me saying and IMO that is the wrong way to go about it, just move it back as little as necessary (ie 2mm and so the light source is still in OK position) and use a spacer behind the bulb for the spring to bear onto, or have I got it totally wrong?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 12 Sep 16, 03:51:34
Images With and without headlight.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 12 Sep 16, 03:57:06
Strange:
On mine (both for the LED and HID installations), the bulb is inserted into the lamp fully, and then the spacer goes on to the back of the bulb to take up the play between the bulb and spring. Having the wire exiting the bulb where yours is, is not helping.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 12 Sep 16, 04:00:41
The image with the LED in situ, is with it fouling the internal shield - seen in the second image.

The two images also show the difference in depth. As the LED is flush with the outer housing whilst touching the inner shield.
The image without the LED shows how deep that housing is.

Something is very different between our headlights.  :187:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 12 Sep 16, 04:03:46
*Originally Posted by Jase [+]
Strange:
On mine (both for the LED and HID installations), the bulb is inserted into the lamp fully, and then the spacer goes on to the back of the bulb to take up the play between the bulb and spring. Having the wire exiting the bulb where yours is, is not helping.

Yeah definitely not. It is right where the rubber housing sits! Absurd!

The instructions show an upper and lower LED whereas mine is just upper
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 12 Sep 16, 04:09:33
Just a thought, but your bulb itself looks quite chunky. Is that what is fouling on the lamp?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 12 Sep 16, 04:20:03
Just popped and measured a couple bulbs:
Standard bulb - 11mm x 43mm (tip to locating plate)
HID bulb - 11mm x 47mm (tip to locating plate)
LED (Gen 5) bulb - 16.5mm x 44mm
How large are the Gen2.V2?
 
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: DaveV2.0 on 12 Sep 16, 04:34:04
They are chunky... 18.5mm in diameter!! (45mm long). And that is not mentioned anywhere on the website or in the instructions!

Watson (Jase), I think you've cracked it!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Paul_Smith on 13 Sep 16, 12:22:20
The important specification for H7 bulbs is that the base to emitter length is 25mm (shorter or longer and the reflector wont work correctly). The other dimensions affect whether or not it will physically fit in the hole.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Tewinterton on 13 Sep 16, 09:35:29
What make and supplier of LED conversion kits are people recommending on here? This is something I really want to sort out soon as the nights are drawing in fast, and I'm doing more and more night time riding. I don't know why Kawasaki didn't put better lights on the bike in the first place. Great bike but it's one thing that let's them down.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 14 Sep 16, 11:54:15
*Originally Posted by Tewinterton [+]
What make and supplier of LED conversion kits are people recommending on here? This is something I really want to sort out soon as the nights are drawing in fast, and I'm doing more and more night time riding. I don't know why Kawasaki didn't put better lights on the bike in the first place. Great bike but it's one thing that let's them down.

I have bought from horizon LEDs without problem but some have had issues with them plus they are quite expensive. One alternative supplier link below. Also fitment can be an issue, DaveV2.0 has a problem at the moment if you read previous posts. I think his problem is that the LED is too big a diameter to enter the headlight internal shield so is not suitable at all for our headlight assembly. However it is a well worthwhile upgrade IMO.

http://www.aurorabulbs.com/products/philips-lumileds-g7-led-4000-lumens-headlight-conversion-kit?variant=10675313475
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jimbrodie1 on 20 Sep 16, 04:27:02
I've just bought the exact same kit

Philips 7th Gen 25W 4000 lumens from Amazon £69 with free delivery  :062:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Tewinterton on 22 Sep 16, 02:24:15
*Originally Posted by Jimbrodie1 [+]
I've just bought the exact same kit

Philips 7th Gen 25W 4000 lumens from Amazon £69 with free delivery  :062:
Please let me know how you get on with installing them and the difference they make. If possible can you take some before and after photos.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jimbrodie1 on 22 Sep 16, 11:44:19
*Originally Posted by Tewinterton [+]
Please let me know how you get on with installing them and the difference they make. If possible can you take some before and after photos.

Will do matey. Probably going to take me a couple of weeks to get round to fitting them though. I work crazy shift patterns  :006:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Roggi on 28 Sep 16, 07:08:27
Anyone had any dealings are fitted these LED lamps link below.

They are suppose to be a straight like for like replace and fit ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00S42XJM2?psc=1
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 28 Sep 16, 08:13:29
Think you may have the same problem with these as DaveV2.0 has had in that the diameter of 19.5 is too big to enter the inner headlight shield. Also, as Kawasaki have fitted our headlights with the plastic adapter a spacer is required for the spring that holds the bulb in place to bear upon so none are quite like for like replacement. If you look at this thread right at the beginning you will see what I mean.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Roggi on 28 Sep 16, 03:08:50
So can anyone recommend a LED bulb ie lamp not too tricky to fit?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 28 Sep 16, 03:34:30
It is not  a case of one been less tricky than another. Just that the bulb needs to fit.
They will all need a spacer - afterall, so does the OEM fitment.

This kit fits and works well. But look around and you may / will find them cheaper elsewhere.
http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/cree-leds/headlamp-cree-led/5th-gen-4000-lumens/h7-5th-gen-4000-lumens
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jimbrodie1 on 01 Oct 16, 03:01:49
Wow just had some weird bloke turn up to hand deliver my bulb spacers  :005: :005:

Fantastic service Mike wasn't expecting that, especially in today's weather  :006:

Great to meet and chat to a like minded enthusiast like yourself. Hope you didn't get too wet on the way home.

 :828:

Ps after seeing yours I'm definitely going to go for the extra side lights  :490:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Roggi on 01 Oct 16, 03:06:23
So you using these ones http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/cree-leds/headlamp-cree-led/5th-gen-4000-lumens/h7-5th-gen-4000-lumens
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jimbrodie1 on 01 Oct 16, 03:10:52
*Originally Posted by Roggi [+]
So can anyone recommend a LED bulb ie lamp not too tricky to fit?

Roggi

These are the ones I've bought ....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01C8DKKE2/ref=mp_s_a_1_16?qid=1459100156&sr=8-16&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lumileds&th=1&psc=1

Will be fitting them this week, now that Mike has been such a gent.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Roggi on 01 Oct 16, 03:31:49
And sorry have you fitted them ? No issues ? Do you need an  additional spacer sorry haven't seen the whole thread I'm at work but I so what to get some led head lights but I hearing all sorts of things as the field of vision isn't as far as  hid
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 11 Oct 16, 07:37:32
Hello all,  I've not even put the deposit on yet, but I'm already expanding the list of "bits"  having read the last 13 pages  and ordering the Toppower LED Headlight Conversion Kit H7  for completeness sake what LED's would you guy's recommend for the side lights?

Regards Rick.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 11 Oct 16, 10:14:38
*Originally Posted by RickN [+]
Hello all,  I've not even put the deposit on yet, but I'm already expanding the list of "bits"  having read the last 13 pages  and ordering the Toppower LED Headlight Conversion Kit H7  for completeness sake what LED's would you guy's recommend for the side lights?

Regards Rick.
http://www.aurorabulbs.com/collections/t10-501-w5w-cree-leds
Take a pick..
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 11 Oct 16, 11:51:34
Beltin ! Cheers Jase.

Being less than savvy regarding these bulbs can anyone shed any light (pun intended) on the subtleties  and differences between the different generations of the philips lumileds ?
would these suffice?

Regards Rick.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 12 Oct 16, 08:37:45
*Originally Posted by RickN [+]
can anyone shed any light (pun intended) on the subtleties  and differences between the different generations of the philips lumileds ?
would these suffice?
In important factors to note with those you highlight is that they FIT without fouling on the inner reflector, and they are the latest generation.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 12 Oct 16, 07:41:53
Had mine fitted for 5 months now but last Friday was the first chance I've had to try them out in proper night time riding during a trip over to Betws y Coed.  The performance of the LED  conversion was excellent.  Reasonable coverage on dip and as much light as you could ask for on main. Decent beam pattern too, so I wasn't being flashed at by oncoming vehicles.

The only downside to the lights now are that they don't change direction when leant over which was the biggest limiting factor when trying to make progress in the dark..
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 12 Oct 16, 07:59:58
Having had both LED and previously HID light conversions, I can say without a doubt the HIDs were brighter.
But, with the HIDs you are limited by the warm up time for the high beam (flasher) and the ballasts were physical larger than the current ballasts on the 5th Gen LEDs.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Paul_Smith on 13 Oct 16, 05:48:03
*Originally Posted by Jase [+]
Having had both LED and previously HID light conversions, I can say without a doubt the HIDs were brighter.
But, with the HIDs you are limited by the warm up time for the high beam (flasher) and the ballasts were physical larger than the current ballasts on the 5th Gen LEDs.
Agreed.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Tewinterton on 14 Oct 16, 07:22:42
*Originally Posted by Jase [+]
Having had both LED and previously HID light conversions, I can say without a doubt the HIDs were brighter.
But, with the HIDs you are limited by the warm up time for the high beam (flasher) and the ballasts were physical larger than the current ballasts on the 5th Gen LEDs.
What HID conversion did you have? And what year bike is yours? I've seen a lot of conversions require the housing to be modified, did you do anything or did they just plug straight in?

 

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 14 Oct 16, 08:28:54
This is the kit I used : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-HID-Conversion-Kit-H7R-6000K-AC-35W-Slim-Ballast-Kit-Metal-based-bulb-/151766223474?hash=item2355f8ca72:g:KxIAAOSwHnFVpSCZ

The only alteration that is required, as for all lighting aspects, is to produce a spacer for the H7. I used these and trimmed them down to fit. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331542179174?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My bike that had the HID's was a 2015 model.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 14 Oct 16, 08:47:16
I've had one of these in my main beam for over a year now, so have no probs recommending them: http://www.hawkcaralarm.com/H76000kXenonHidHeadlightConversionKit.aspx

Will require the same adapter as mentioned by Jase (with a little trimming  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Paul_Smith on 14 Oct 16, 11:42:11
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
I've had one of these in my main beam for over a year now, so have no probs recommending them: http://www.hawkcaralarm.com/H76000kXenonHidHeadlightConversionKit.aspx

Will require the same adapter as mentioned by Jase (with a little trimming  :028:
Would you consider switch things around? Put the HID into your low beam (which is always on) and use a LED bulb for your high beam so you get the instant flash?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 14 Oct 16, 11:43:36
By main beam, I mean low, as in main light on all the time  (https://z1000sx.co.uk/Smileys/z1000sx/827.gif)  
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: HeavyRain on 15 Oct 16, 04:09:03
Hi Everybody

Fitted mine today with maccmikes spacers. Bought these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01C8DKKE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01C8DKKE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
which appear identical to maccmike's but without the LumiLED branding on the LED board (which could be the critical difference).

The main waste of time was trying to get the bulbs to seat correctly with them upside down - should have looked closer at the pics on here. It's also a bit of a faff to find suitable locations for the driver units and wiring that's out of the rain and spray and won't vibrate about.

The LED unit can be rotated in relation to the tabbed holder, but I left them with LEDs facing the horizontally. Not sure if this is ideal?

Been out for a quick shakedown, the heatsink on the bulb gets too hot to keep your fingers on, the driver unit just gets warm.

The only problem now is that the sidelights look like a couple of sputtering oil lamps in comparison.

Best
Ian
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 15 Oct 16, 08:23:15
Hi Ian,

I mounted the drivers on the headstock bracket. Just secured with cable ties and it worked well for me.

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af64/foxygrabon/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190637_zpsbifgmolx.jpg) (http://s994.photobucket.com/user/foxygrabon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160502_190637_zpsbifgmolx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Roggi on 15 Oct 16, 08:45:35
Bit confused with the whole LED head light thing surely hid xenon lamps don't take that long to warm up and are they astraight fit no need to muck about with spacers?

LED's more expensive I get but seems to be a faff to fit or is there a model of LED's that fit without the use of an additional spacer?

Answers on here and not a postcard please?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Oct 16, 11:04:33
*Originally Posted by Roggi [+]
Bit confused with the whole LED head light thing surely hid xenon lamps don't take that long to warm up and are they astraight fit no need to muck about with spacers?

LED's more expensive I get but seems to be a faff to fit or is there a model of LED's that fit without the use of an additional spacer?

Answers on here and not a postcard please?

Think you'll find a spacer is necessary for any type of different bulb, be it HID or LED,  the reason being the strange adapter Kawasaki have installed which cannot be used with these bulbs and the retaining spring will not bear onto just a bulb therefore the spacer is necessary for the spring to bear onto and hold the bulb in place.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Paul_Smith on 17 Oct 16, 11:59:58
*Originally Posted by Roggi [+]
Bit confused with the whole LED head light thing surely hid xenon lamps don't take that long to warm up and are they astraight fit no need to muck about with spacers?

LED's more expensive I get but seems to be a faff to fit or is there a model of LED's that fit without the use of an additional spacer?

Answers on here and not a postcard please?
What maccmike said about spacers, they are need by the headlight housing, regardless of what bulbs you fit.

As for HIDs, they warm up quickly enough for your Low beam, but take far too long to reach brightness (up to 10seconds) to be used for high beam where you need to flash it, or just turn it on for a few moments at a time. HIDs and LED both need ballasts that you have to find a home for, HIDs typically put more light on the road and so are easier to see by but are slower to reach full brightness, LEDS emit a brighter (but less well focused) light so are easier to be seen by and reach full brightness almost instantly. Both are massively better and brighter then Halogens, use less power and last much longer.   
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 17 Oct 16, 12:16:22
I would be tempted to replace my low beam LED with the HID I have on a shelf, leaving the Hi-beam as a LED. Best possible combination I suppose.

Anyone else contemplated this arrangement?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Stonefly on 29 Oct 16, 12:00:47
Right, I have been following this post for a while and still feel rather confusticated by it all.....
Can someone please clarify the following for me please?
The 2016 sx uses 2 single filament H7 bulbs in the healdlamps right? So I need 2 H7 LED bulbs - one for dip beam (always on) and one for High beam? Are the two H7LEDs different (one for dip and one for high) or are they the same bulbs with different patterns due to the lamps themselves?
I understand that there will need to be a fan attached to the back of the LED bulbs - Am i right in thinking that some LED bulbs have a screw on fan, thus allowing the refitment of the rubber boot without hacking lumps out of it?
Are the adaptor plates available to buy, or is it a case of speaking very nicely to maccmike?
Thanks in advance?
Gary R...
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 29 Oct 16, 12:09:25
Point 1 - The bulbs are exactly the same. The reflector makes the difference between hi / lo.
Point 2 - Newer LED lights do not use Fans, but instead have a screw on heat-sink - no need to butcher the rubber boot.
Point 3 - The adaptor plate, is not an itemised part as such, but is an adaptor that is trimmed down and used to take up the play. such as  THIS  (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331542179174).

Any more ???, then ask away.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Stonefly on 29 Oct 16, 12:44:59
*Originally Posted by Jase [+]
Point 1 - The bulbs are exactly the same. The reflector makes the difference between hi / lo.
Point 2 - Newer LED lights do not use Fans, but instead have a screw on heat-sink - no need to butcher the rubber boot.
Point 3 - The adaptor plate, is not an itemised part as such, but is an adaptor that is trimmed down and used to take up the play. such as  THIS  (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331542179174).

Any more ???, then ask away.

Thanks Jase - thats exactly what i needed to know.
I think i can work out the rest myself, but i will shout out if there is anything else i am unsure of.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 29 Oct 16, 01:56:40
That adapter will help with HID, not led. Led require more of a spacer than adapter, hence Mike's small business here!  (https://z1000sx.co.uk/Smileys/z1000sx/038.gif)  
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 29 Oct 16, 03:14:45
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
That adapter will help with HID, not led. Led require more of a spacer than adapter, hence Mike's small business here!  (https://z1000sx.co.uk/Smileys/z1000sx/038.gif)  
Strange,  it worked for me, for both HIDs and LEDs.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 29 Oct 16, 03:18:52
Would be interested to see how your heatsink is mounted!?

   
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 29 Oct 16, 03:35:32
On that adaptor, trim it so that just the base is remaining (no need for the column), and trim the edges to smooth it off.
Remove the heatsink from the LED
The remainder of the adaptor fits over the back of the LED, and mount / lock in place in the lens as normal.
Feed the cables through the rubber cover hole, and secure the rubber cover in place as normal. Ensure that the thread of the LED protrudes through the hole of the rubber.
Feed the cables through the heatsink, and then screw the heatsink to the LED until tight. You may feel the need to use a mild thread lock, but I didn't.
Finished... Just wire up the ballasts, and your brightening up the road.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 29 Oct 16, 04:38:29
 (https://z1000sx.co.uk/Smileys/z1000sx/827.gif)  Thanks for that  (https://z1000sx.co.uk/Smileys/z1000sx/002.gif)  
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 06 Dec 16, 04:29:38
maccmike, you still make these adapters and ship to belgium?
I need 4
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 06 Dec 16, 07:40:24
*Originally Posted by fallenwout [+]
maccmike, you still make these adapters and ship to belgium?
I need 4

No problem, I can have 4 ready tomorrow and cost is £16 including international standard postage. I will pm email address for payment so you can let me know if you wish to order them.
Cheers
Mike

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 14 Dec 16, 11:27:37
I got the adaptors from maccmike, they look nice!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 15 Dec 16, 12:26:24
Just letting you guy know the LEDs are becoming much cheaper to the price were it becomes interesting. I bought mine from planeteleds at half the price of horizonleds or aurorabulbs. These LEDs are exactly the same and the experience with the webshop has been good. 1 week delivery.
http://www.planeteleds.fr/fr/?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_category_id=658&virtuemart_product_id=1450&Itemid=396
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Paul_Smith on 15 Dec 16, 01:17:22
*Originally Posted by fallenwout [+]
Just letting you guy know the LEDs are becoming much cheaper to the price were it becomes interesting. I bought mine from planeteleds at half the price of horizonleds or aurorabulbs. These LEDs are exactly the same and the experience with the webshop has been good. 1 week delivery.
http://www.planeteleds.fr/fr/?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_category_id=658&virtuemart_product_id=1450&Itemid=396
Those look very similar to the ones I used https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01C8DKKE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01C8DKKE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and am but looking at amazon, there are some for less then half that price now.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Stonefly on 15 Dec 16, 08:13:10
Do these bulbs from amazon have screw-on heat sinks? I bought some LEDs but the heats heatsinks did not unscrew (plus a couple of other issues) so I am still looking for an LED H7 replacement with a removable heatsink and no faffing about with variable focus etc. Cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 15 Dec 16, 08:44:19
 The ones in the pic look like the ones I got from Aurora and they did have sperate heat sinks.
Will post pic when I get in front of a Pc.
Regards Rick.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Dec 16, 09:14:42
At least one member on here has successfully fitted the Top power bulbs from Amazon, and yes they do have the removable heatsink.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Stonefly on 15 Dec 16, 09:22:55
Great thanks Mike.  Are you still making those spacers?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Dec 16, 09:35:48
*Originally Posted by Stonefly [+]
Great thanks Mike.  Are you still making those spacers?

I am mate. Will PM details.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 15 Dec 16, 09:44:57
*Originally Posted by Paul_Smith [+]
Those look very similar to the ones I used https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01C8DKKE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01C8DKKE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and am but looking at amazon, there are some for less then half that price now.
Yes they look exactly the same.
Maccmikes's adapters were a tight fit on my z1000sx. Took me 20mins to get it in far enough (that's what she said ;)).
My brother's er6f 2009 it was a 10sec job to get them in. Both are the same headlights.

I highly recommend maccmikes's adapters. Otherwise they wont fit.

Sent from Tapatalk

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 16 Dec 16, 12:45:11
Hi all, They say a picture says a thousand words so I hope this helps.
I took these when I installed my LED bulbs with Maccmike's spacers.
Regards Rick.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 16 Dec 16, 12:48:53
part deux  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 16 Dec 16, 12:49:48
Et Trois :027:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 16 Dec 16, 12:53:06
Flash  ! Arrrrghh !

Regards Rick.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: fallenwout on 16 Dec 16, 11:01:59
*Originally Posted by RickN [+]
Flash  ! Arrrrghh !
Yes the short flashes looks like you've been caught by a speedtrap.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zx9landie on 09 Feb 17, 04:49:54
Hi Maccmike,
What are the dimensions of the 'spacers' (or how much for a pair sent to gu166gj) please
cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 09 Feb 17, 04:54:40
*Originally Posted by zx9landie [+]
Hi Maccmike,
What are the dimensions of the 'spacers' (or how much for a pair sent to gu166gj) please
cheers

Hi, overall dimensions are 35mm outer diameter, 20mm inner diameter, 9mm thick all +/-.25mm and notched to fit as top of bulb. Alternatively £7 per pair including postage.
Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zx9landie on 11 Feb 17, 07:12:05
hi mike,
sorry to be a pain.
looking at the 3200's - do they look like 'plug/play' to the original loom to you please as they sellers web site appears to show different connectors
& finally - where did u 'stick' the resistor ?
cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 11 Feb 17, 08:54:10
*Originally Posted by zx9landie [+]
hi mike,
sorry to be a pain.
looking at the 3200's - do they look like 'plug/play' to the original loom to you please as they sellers web site appears to show different connectors
& finally - where did u 'stick' the resistor ?
cheers

Have you got a link to the '3200' as not sure which one this is, maybe this one? If it is you may have a problem with installation as it doesn't look like the back end is removable to fit necessary spacer.

http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/h7-cree-led-headlight-kit-3200-lumens?search=h7

 Stuck the driver/resistor to the top of the headlight with adhesive Velcro. The OEM wiring loom has to plug into the OEM bulb connector which plugs into the standard H7 connector on the driver/resistor cable.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 11 Feb 17, 09:16:21
I took these when I installed mine, hope it sheds some light on the matter.

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/H7-adapter51ce89ff85faaa32.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/LED-bulb-adapter-on-ballast450241a66f5d28ce.png)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 11 Feb 17, 09:20:37
more pics

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/LED-exploded-view46455ef0b5de809c.png)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/LED-install-showing-spacer4e308cb24be19fc7.png)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 11 Feb 17, 09:22:24
 :028:

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/LED-Bulb-assembly-mock-up31a678e5f27cdabf.png)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/LED-install-without-heat-sink07ae761860ffae48.png)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 11 Feb 17, 09:23:31
and finally, hope that helps some.
Installed mine using Mikes spacers, they saved me a hell of a lot of faffing about Cheers Mike :028:

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/LED-install-with-heat-sink329d0b761dd94b4b.png)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZX rider on 11 Feb 17, 11:23:34
Hi
I think this is good option:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381937529012

LED Headlamp Headlight Conversion  Kawasaki Z800 Z1000 SX Versys  :830:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zx9landie on 11 Feb 17, 11:29:08
Hi RickN,
Yes - that was the 3200 I was looking at.
Excellent pics - TY
You talked me into it !!!
+ their website had a 15% code (NEWBIE15) which softened the blow of getting the 4000's.

Mike,
Yes please to the spacers - please PM me your payment details (pay pal ? I'll 'send' you the money so I pay the paypal fees)

Cheers both for the help - proving what this site is all about !
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 12 Feb 17, 12:05:59
No worries Zx9landie,  these are the ones I bought https://www.aurorabulbs.com/collections/led-headlight-kits/products/philips-lumileds-g7-led-4000-lumens-headlight-conversion-kit?variant=10675313475
Side lights  https://www.aurorabulbs.com/collections/t10-501-w5w-cree-leds/products/501-t10-w5w-25w-cree-led-bulbs-pair?variant=880265287 there is a discount code for liking the page  whilst not massive, it's better than a kick in the spuds.
 You can install them without removing the fairings, I removed the clock cowl for better access, and zip tied the ballasts to the central frame in front of the head stock, Edit, just like foxy did on page 14,  Also noted that I had forgotten i had posted my pics previously.. Apologies, I've slept since  :822:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 12 Feb 17, 01:09:10
*Originally Posted by ZX rider [+]
Hi
I think this is good option:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381937529012

LED Headlamp Headlight Conversion  Kawasaki Z800 Z1000 SX Versys  :830:

Not that good a deal, it is for only one bulb. The kit below is for a pair and only £69.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toppower-Headlight-Conversion-Lumileds-ZES-Headlamps/dp/B01C8DKKE2/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1486904737&sr=1-1&keywords=TOPPOWER

PM sent zx9landie
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZX rider on 12 Feb 17, 02:20:43
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Not that good a deal, it is for only one bulb. The kit below is for a pair and only £69.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toppower-Headlight-Conversion-Lumileds-ZES-Headlamps/dp/B01C8DKKE2/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1486904737&sr=1&keywords=TOPPOWER

PM sent zx9landie


Yes it looks cheaper  :018: :062:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zx9landie on 12 Feb 17, 02:33:21
why did u have to post that after I had just paid nearly double !!!
BUGGER !!!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZX rider on 12 Feb 17, 03:00:10
*Originally Posted by ZX rider [+]

Yes it looks cheaper  :018: :062:


Can i use this led without any spacer???
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZX rider on 12 Feb 17, 03:09:25
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Not that good a deal, it is for only one bulb. The kit below is for a pair and only £69.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toppower-Headlight-Conversion-Lumileds-ZES-Headlamps/dp/B01C8DKKE2/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1486904737&sr=1-1&keywords=TOPPOWER

PM sent zx9landie

.....or could you send spaecer to me cv239fh if necessary for this led please

Regards
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 12 Feb 17, 05:13:11
*Originally Posted by ZX rider [+]

Can i use this led without any spacer???

No, a spacer is necessary for the spring clip that secures the bulb in place to bear upon. The OEM spacer which is also the connector is neede to connect the wiring loom to the driver.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Mazy6 on 12 Feb 17, 05:23:36
Just a quick update. Iv fitted the LED's mentioned above from toppower Amazon with mikes spacers. So far so good although Iv not had chance to do a nighttime test ride yet. I'm also running LED side lights to which are really eye catching. Mikes spacers work really well he's doing a great job helping us all out on here. If anyone finds the spring clip tight to close just rotate the bulb housing / spacer slightly and you'll find it will close as it does with the standard bulb.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZX rider on 12 Feb 17, 05:29:48
Thank you guys, alredy ordered from maccmike.  :031:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZX rider on 16 Feb 17, 06:54:25
Finally, done  :047:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: RickN on 16 Feb 17, 10:05:15
Spot on mate  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zx9landie on 21 Feb 17, 10:34:57
all fitted here = look great compared to standard

the 'spacers' make all the difference as truly a straight swap rather than trying to work out the dimensions/cut/try/refine/repeat

many thanks to all who advised.

hey Mike,
would you happen to know if 'your' spacers can be used on other H7 head lights as have a mate thinking of doing the LED swap.

cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 Feb 17, 12:42:36
*Originally Posted by zx9landie [+]

hey Mike,
would you happen to know if 'your' spacers can be used on other H7 head lights as have a mate thinking of doing the LED swap.

cheers
They will fit with any H7 bulbs where spacers are required. I know they have been used in an ER6 and at least one car headlights. Check first though, as a general rule if the loom connects direct to the bulb the spacers are not necessary.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Pinky on 23 Feb 17, 11:42:52
Hi all. After a few night rides home from work I'm doing the LED upgrade as well. Mike - could I please order a set of your spacers as well? If you can send me a PM with details that be great.

Sent from my SM-T555 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Pinky on 24 Feb 17, 04:36:06
A bike thank you to Mike, my spacers have arrived today. Thank you for doing these for us.

 

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: upright-ninja on 06 Apr 17, 10:29:44
Could I possibly order a pair of the adaptors, please? I've already changed my sidelight bulbs for LED's and it's made a massive difference, I'm going for the full shebang with the headlights as well. Thanks in advance... :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 07 Apr 17, 10:12:01
*Originally Posted by upright-ninja [+]
Could I possibly order a pair of the adaptors, please? I've already changed my sidelight bulbs for LED's and it's made a massive difference, I'm going for the full shebang with the headlights as well. Thanks in advance... :002:

No problem mate, PM sent.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: upright-ninja on 10 Apr 17, 01:49:00
Just a heads up... I ordered a set of these:

http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps/h7-cree-led-headlight-kit-3200-lumens (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps/h7-cree-led-headlight-kit-3200-lumens)

and I used a voucher code 'NEWBIE15' for 15% off so they were only £76.46 instead of £89.95.

There's also an Easter voucher code for that site for 20-25% off but I'm not sure if that applies over a certain spend amount.
Worth a look if you're thinking of getting some LED's for your 'Z'...  :062:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Broseley on 10 Apr 17, 02:12:34
*Originally Posted by upright-ninja [+]
Just a heads up... I ordered a set of these:

http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps/h7-cree-led-headlight-kit-3200-lumens (http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h7-led-headlights-headlamps/h7-cree-led-headlight-kit-3200-lumens)

and I used a voucher code 'NEWBIE15' for 15% off so they were only £76.46 instead of £89.95.

There's also an Easter voucher code for that site for 20-25% off but I'm not sure if that applies over a certain spend amount.
Worth a look if you're thinking of getting some LED's for your 'Z'...  :062:

Lets us know if they are really just plug and play like they claim or what mods you had to use to make them work please.  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Kippers_cracks on 15 Apr 17, 12:21:29
Hi mike,

I would also like a set of your spacers please if that's ok?

Send me the details and I will send the money over to you.

Thanks in advance 👍
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 Apr 17, 09:50:11
PM sent.  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: GruffaloRider on 15 Apr 17, 10:16:06
Hi Mike.
Please may I have some spacers as well.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Kippers_cracks on 16 Apr 17, 12:20:11
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
PM sent.  :028:

All sorted thanks, looking forward to them  :830:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: GruffaloRider on 19 Apr 17, 05:09:12
So, I have ordered some H7 LEDs from Toppower at Amazon for £65, only to discover they are coming from China... Need I be worried, should I cancel and buy from Aurora. Has anyone had success with Toppower?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Kippers_cracks on 19 Apr 17, 06:46:32
*Originally Posted by GruffaloRider [+]
So, I have ordered some H7 LEDs from Toppower at Amazon for £65, only to discover they are coming from China... Need I be worried, should I cancel and buy from Aurora. Has anyone had success with Toppower?

I wouldn't worry , I am waiting for these.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302233029789?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=601074499506&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

God knows what these will be like  :148:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: GruffaloRider on 19 Apr 17, 07:15:17
I can't help but feel if it all goes wrong then the only identifying features of an SX in the ashes will be Mikes spacers....
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jimbrodie1 on 19 Apr 17, 11:02:45
Yes I have the Toppower ones. They are exactly the same Philips H7 as I have seen some pay twice as much for on Amazon etc.

They are excellent but you'll need a set of Mike's spacers if you haven't got them already  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: GruffaloRider on 20 Apr 17, 02:39:12
Thank you Jim and Kipper for your comforting comments and thank you Mike for the prompt spacers. Just have to wait 8 weeks for the H7s from China now.
Nige  :828: :031:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Kippers_cracks on 20 Apr 17, 07:41:41
*Originally Posted by Kippers_cracks [+]
All sorted thanks, looking forward to them  :830:

Spacers received many thanks  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: upright-ninja on 20 Apr 17, 09:22:53
Has anyone had any dealings with Horizon LED's? I'm just asking because I've ordered some H7 LED lights from them (as mentioned a bit earlier in this thread) on the 8th April but I still haven't had them. I've tried contacting them but haven't heard anything back. Are they usually this slow at dispatching items?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 20 Apr 17, 09:41:28
An email from them said that they were experiencing a large demand for their goods.
But last year when I attempted to get a DOA bulb changed via the website, I got no reply. A couple days later I sent an email direct to Info@HorizonLEDs.co.uk
It took a week to get a reply from them. In that time I had gone to Aurora for the replacement sidelight.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 20 Apr 17, 10:08:13
I ordered some for my car. Sent them back as had issues with constant flicker that no resistor could fix. Took months for the original delivery, due to over selling, then months to get my money back.
Mike has them on his bike and was the first to recommend them though...
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 20 Apr 17, 10:30:15
I have never had any problem with Horizon.  Bought 2 sets from them both of which are great. However after reading other's experiences and they are relatively expensive I will not be buying from them again.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: eggy on 21 Apr 17, 07:24:13
My spacers arrived today - cheers  Mike.  :031:

No sign of the bulbs from Amazon yet...... :827:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Kippers_cracks on 26 Apr 17, 11:03:04
*Originally Posted by Kippers_cracks [+]
I wouldn't worry , I am waiting for these.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302233029789?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=601074499506&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Avoid led's that are supplied with a built in cooling fan as you will need to butcher the rubber dust cover to get them fitted. Bit the bullet and have requested mine to be returned to fleabay. Waiting for delivery of toppower ones previously advised on here that are ok.
Price is down now too folks £62.99 a pair

Will let u know how I get on

Cheers


God knows what these will be like  :148:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Kippers_cracks on 01 May 17, 03:07:29
Update

All fired up and working, highly recommended upgrade folks for a bargain £73.50 all in

£62.99 toppower bulbs from amazon
£7.00 pair of spacers from maccmike ( cheers )
£3.50 side light led's from flea bay

Piece of cake to fit, just need to be careful where you put the ballasts.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: GruffaloRider on 06 May 17, 11:50:45
Fitted easily and a vast improvement.
Thanks to Mike for the spacers and the forum members for advice and guidance.
Nige.
Photo is on full beam.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: eggy on 08 May 17, 09:38:57
I'm looking to install mine at the weekend but just a quick question:

Which way has everyone installed them? Led's facing left/ right or up/ down??
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jase on 08 May 17, 11:05:30
They only fit the one way; the way that the key-ways allow.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: eggy on 13 May 17, 05:42:40
Ok so all fitted  :001: :001:

But..... like a typical bloke, I only read the instructions after putting the bike back together.
It mentions something about adjustment screws on the outer ring of the LED assembly but I don't remember seeing them. Did anyone else use the adjusters?

Also, I couldn't get the locking screws in - I can't see the heatsinks coming undone though. Has anyone else left the screw out??

And the end of the LED is touching the end of the centre reflector - is this an issue??
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: HeavyRain on 15 May 17, 08:22:51
I saw the grub screws, but they came so that the LEDs point straight up/down, so didn't touch them. Maybe something to play with in the dark winter nights, with nothing better to do...

IIRC the tip of the bulb was very near to the reflector, if not actually touching.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 15 May 17, 10:03:54
Unless you have the headlight assembly on the bench I think it would be virtually impossible to install the heatsink locking screws so I have left them out and no sign of the heatsink coming loose therefore wouldn't worry about it. Not touched the adjustment screws either so wouldn't worry about them either. When I installed mine one LED touched and one didn't so I just presumed the reflector was bent slightly different, not had any issue since so wouldn't worry too much about that either. So to sum up, don't worry about it just ride and enjoy.  :celebrate:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: andreis on 18 May 17, 09:22:03
I just got back from a business trip overseas and found maccmike's adapters already delivered.
I wanted to say a big thank you. They look really nice and you were very helpful and responsive.
I'm still waiting on the LEDs, so I haven't tried them on. For reference, I ordered these main bulbs:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01GFOCR6O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and these parking lights:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00OYT1322/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They should all be here next week. Can't wait! :D

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 19 May 17, 09:50:46
Good to know you got them OK.  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tuppakwak on 04 Jun 17, 07:14:06
Hi, message for mike please. I have sent a pm but in case that doesn't work can I purchase some spacers please? Also, can you please direct me to your recommended led set as this seems to be a moving target? Many thanks, Tim
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 04 Jun 17, 08:54:04
Hi Tim, PM responded to. One of the most popular is the topower,  see link below. Also Aurora and Horizon supply similar from the UK but are considerably more expensive. Whichever you go for a removable heat sinks is required so bulb can be inserted, then spacer for the spring clip to bear upon, followed by heat sink.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01C8DKKE2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&coliid=I3JL8ACMKZBVRU&psc=1

https://www.aurorabulbs.com/collections/led-headlight-kits
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tuppakwak on 04 Jun 17, 10:18:21
Brilliant, thanks Mike
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tuppakwak on 06 Jun 17, 06:14:06
Maccmike's adaptors arrived today just 48 hours after my initial request - excellent service - Many thanks Mike, that is really helpful.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 06 Jun 17, 07:49:09
*Originally Posted by tuppakwak [+]
Maccmike's adaptors arrived today just 48 hours after my initial request - excellent service - Many thanks Mike, that is really helpful.

Thanks, glad to help.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tuppakwak on 16 Jun 17, 01:08:28
Bought and fitted the Aurora kit using Mike's adaptors, which worked a treat.  Have taken bike for a night time spin and it is much better than it was. The only issue that concerned me was whether spray water could get into the connection between the existing and new wiring.  I found a section of an old mountain bike inner tube to be the solution - I stretched it over the connector housing and plug, and cable tied it around the incoming wire.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ace_Rimmer on 30 Jun 17, 10:03:42
Hi.
I'm in the middle of another LED headlights installation, on a 2015 model.

Did you guys cut the rubber cap? I find it difficult to screw the radiator deep enough with the rubber in its original state. In afraid if I leave it this way the bulb will not have enough cooling capacity..


Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ace_Rimmer on 30 Jun 17, 10:04:34
Using the toppower  type bulbs most here recently fitted.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: tuppakwak on 01 Jul 17, 10:15:07
Hi, I have not seen any posts suggesting others had to cut the rubber.  I used the aurora version and there was sufficient thread on the barrel of the unit poking through the rubber cap to screw on the radiator through several turns and tighten it up.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ace_Rimmer on 03 Jul 17, 09:42:15
The job took a few hours, but I was keen to put both controllers in the basket supporting the front fairing. Took me some fiddling time ;) but have now a nice snug installation, virtually nothing dangling about.

I did however cut away some of the rubber from the original caps. Without cutting I was of course able to screw in the heatsink, however doing so used only something like 1/4 of the thread of the heatsink. I dont think it would work properly in such conditions, as the heat-absorber was probably designed to be sufficient when fully screwed in (ie using all thread length).

After cutting off about 1.5cm of the rubber, the heatsinks went in really nice, moreless untill 4/5 of the thread width. I didnt use the lock-in bolts like rest of our guys here, the heatsinks are really tight though, I dont think they are ever going to loosen up.




The lights are fab, 3x better than anything I've had on a bike to this day. Thanks all for the idea and especially Mike for the spacers.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 03 Jul 17, 10:45:08
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-mini-30w-cree-3500lm-white-fog-headlight-led-kit-5000k/
Anybody used these, will they still need some of Mikes Spacers?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ace_Rimmer on 04 Jul 17, 10:06:30
*Originally Posted by jerbear1 [+]
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-mini-30w-cree-3500lm-white-fog-headlight-led-kit-5000k/
Anybody used these, will they still need some of Mikes Spacers?

Yes They will
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 04 Jul 17, 12:40:01
 :828:
*Originally Posted by Ace_Rimmer [+]
Yes They will
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Bart on 14 Jul 17, 01:43:49
after reading the topic i found the time to do it also.
Find myself a set of ledlights  at https://www.planeteleds.fr/fr/kit-led-haute-puissance/1818-kit-led-haute-qualite-4000lm-6000k-led-philips.html.
ANd indeed super, bought at the same time some led's for the indicators and a relay for leds. Evertyhing is led now super.
Thanks for the topic maccmike.

Next is reversing the grey lcd to black
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Okkie26 on 17 Jul 17, 09:39:47
Looks nice.

But did you use some adapters or is it plug and play?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Bart on 18 Jul 17, 10:00:26
yep , used the same model as maccmike but made mine in (teflon), for the rest just plug and play.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 20 Jul 17, 12:58:57
Gonna give these a go as soon as they arrive: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072148TCS/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i2?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B072148TCS&pd_rd_r=YNXW98R154AV9WB6SXZ1&pd_rd_w=QI9CN&pd_rd_wg=gNm3w&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=PKV5NA4QC65EXVER3MSB&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=16f14aeb-bd11-4e9e-8c26-9ca0139074ee&pf_rd_i=desktop

They look pretty much identical to the TOPPower ones, but £25 less and since the order if FBA (Fullfilled by Amazon) and warranty related issues should be sorted quickly.
I'll post feedback later...
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 21 Jul 17, 05:35:33
So many choices nowadays!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 26 Jul 17, 01:09:28
Well they arrived and as expected look just like the TOPpower option and alomst identical to the Horizon bulbs I sent back that were £100+ more  :087:

These also arrived with resistors in the box that aren't necessary for the bike.  :002:

Easy to fit (Just did them in my lunch break! :008:)

Look nice white & bright and very close to the HID (low beam) that was replaced. Obviously can't comment on longevity, but looking forward to testing them out properly once the nights draw in... :028:

 :828: to MacMike for the spacers, MUCH easier than trimming down the plastic options from ebay and will definitely be better for heat dissipation.   :031:

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/20170726_101616d9bf30fa91ab6e07.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/20170726_101632705b5c711bb51ed9.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zx9landie on 26 Jul 17, 04:14:10
I fitted to my 2016 SX & the result was amazing when compared to stock.
having traded my SX in, I now have mine for sale in the for sale forum, including the required spacers to fit to an SX.
Cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 26 Jul 17, 04:21:10
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
Well they arrived and as expected look just like the TOPpower option and alomst identical to the Horizon bulbs I sent back that were £100+ more  :087:

These also arrived with resistors in the box that aren't necessary for the bike.  :002:

Easy to fit (Just did them in my lunch break! :008:)

Look nice white & bright and very close to the HID (low beam) that was replaced. Obviously can't comment on longevity, but looking forward to testing them out properly once the nights draw in... :028:

 :828: to MacMike for the spacers, MUCH easier than trimming down the plastic options from ebay and will definitely be better for heat dissipation.   :031:

Hi MDR. Where does the wire come out on these, the base or the side somewhere?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 26 Jul 17, 06:12:00
*Originally Posted by whyhaveone [+]
Hi MDR. Where does the wire come out on these, the base or the side somewhere?

Straight out of the bottom, through the heat sink.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 26 Jul 17, 07:04:34
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
Well they arrived and as expected look just like the TOPpower option and alomst identical to the Horizon bulbs I sent back that were £100+ more  :087:

These also arrived with resistors in the box that aren't necessary for the bike.  :002:

Easy to fit (Just did them in my lunch break! :008:)

Look nice white & bright and very close to the HID (low beam) that was replaced. Obviously can't comment on longevity, but looking forward to testing them out properly once the nights draw in... :028:

 :828: to MacMike for the spacers, MUCH easier than trimming down the plastic options from ebay and will definitely be better for heat dissipation.   :031:

Hi mdr1970

Interested to see how you get on with these. Got some spacers from Mike just can't decide which bulbs to go for, although excellent price on your selection. I was also recommended some from HID, link in previous post.
I appreciate not dark earlier enough yet but interested in what the the beam pattern is like in comparison to original, although my night riding is very minimal.
Any pics of lights actually on the bike would be appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 26 Jul 17, 07:15:36
*Originally Posted by jerbear1 [+]
Hi mdr1970

Interested to see how you get on with these. Got some spacers from Mike just can't decide which bulbs to go for, although excellent price on your selection. I was also recommended some from HID, link in previous post.
I appreciate not dark earlier enough yet but interested in what the the beam pattern is like in comparison to original, although my night riding is very minimal.
Any pics of lights actually on the bike would be appreciated.

Thanks

When it stops raining I'll take some pics with the lights shining on my garage wall, or something similar.  :028:
These are good in that the body of the LEDs can be rotated to suit fitment to help with beam patterns.
FYI, you need to make sure they are installed with the LEDS facing East/West and not North/South!!

The recommendation from HID in previous post wont fit. I bought some and had to send them back, as the heatsink wasn't removable. Good customer service from them, but obviously lost a few quid in postage sending them back  :oh_no:

Anyways, I'll update when I have some pics for you...
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 26 Jul 17, 07:54:13
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7-mini-30w-cree-3500lm-white-fog-headlight-led-kit-5000k/

 :828:
That would be brilliant. Look forward to pics  :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: 1832rhodes on 31 Jul 17, 03:12:51
does anybody know if the forum member still makes the spacers for the led headlights ?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 31 Jul 17, 05:21:44
*Originally Posted by 1832rhodes [+]
does anybody know if the forum member still makes the spacers for the led headlights ?
He certainly does, had some from Mike the other week  :046:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZPETE on 22 Aug 17, 08:37:27
Hi Maccmike, seems that you are the go- to guy for members wanting to convert to led. I have done my side lights and they put headlights to shame! Please could I have some spacers if you still have some? so I can order some head lights to match :440: Let me know how to pay you mate. Cheers Pete.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZPETE on 22 Aug 17, 08:46:42
Sent you a PM with details in anticipation  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 22 Aug 17, 09:01:42
PM responded to Pete, cheers Mike
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Brickit on 23 Aug 17, 12:13:12
Just completed the headlight/sidelight upgrade to LEDs and been on a little run to test things out.......Fantastic.  :celebrate:
Out in the country on full beam it might as well be daylight.
Used the following:-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=toppower+h7   £66.00
https://www.hids-direct.co.uk/501-w5w-5w-cree-canbus-led-extremely-bright-sidelight-bulbs/         inc postage £12.45 pair.
Also, last but not least, a pair of Maccmike's essential spacers.
See and be seen in one!  :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Okkie26 on 23 Aug 17, 02:48:10
Very nice.  Now I have to find a place where I can get the spacers here back in the Netherlands.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 23 Aug 17, 03:42:35
Already sent 3 sets to Belgium & Netherlands, if you want some just ask, not a problem at all.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Okkie26 on 24 Aug 17, 01:42:50
If you can PM me the costs..


But I will go on a holiday this weekend, so don't wait for a quick answer  :)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 30 Aug 17, 05:24:08
I bought these cos I did not want a fan nor a separate resistor thing and they are 4000LM each - and they have a three year warranty. However, they do not fit.  :003:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NIGHTEYE-Automotive-LED-Headlight-Bulbs/dp/B01MFFP7PX/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1504110713&sr=1-1&keywords=NIGHTEYE+Automotive+LED+Headlight+Bulbs+-+H7+50w+8000LM%2FSet+6500K+Cool

No matter what I did the body would not clear the spring clip - especially with some spacers that I initially tried. I then bent one clip so that it would fit without a spacer, but the clip still hit the body - it should be vertical. I've now contacted them to return them.

I might try some the same as MDR1970 next?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: ZPETE on 31 Aug 17, 08:33:27
My Toppower LEDs arrived yesterday and were fitted straight away ( :828: Maccmike for the spacers)
Much easier than I expected, took about an hour but could do it in half that time, now that  I know what I"m doing.
I thoroughly recommend this mod to anyone considering it, total cost £73 and the difference is amazing. I can"t believe I have left it this long before actually doing it!
I had already done the sidelights so I am now fully LED at the front......much more visible in daylight, hugely better vision in the dark and looks much better too. :830:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 31 Aug 17, 09:42:22
I don't suppose anyone has a spare right hand headlight bulb retainer spring? I sort of stuffed mine a bit during my LED fitting attempt.  :003:

I'll post in the wanted section.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 31 Aug 17, 09:44:48
Fairly sure I have one Colin, may take some finding though.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 31 Aug 17, 09:53:31
Wow, thanks Mike. I've bodged it to fit at the moment, but it would not take another LED fitting attempt!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 31 Aug 17, 09:56:47
*Originally Posted by whyhaveone [+]

No matter what I did the body would not clear the spring clip - especially with some spacers that I initially tried. I then bent one clip so that it would fit without a spacer, but the clip still hit the body - it should be vertical. I've now contacted them to return them.

I might try some the same as MDR1970 next?


Still early days, but NO issues with mine so far = Happy to recommend them, although the price has been creeping up since I bought them :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 31 Aug 17, 10:16:01
These look the same as the Toppower and the ones Mark bought but quite a bit cheaper, and advertised as having the Philips chip.

Colin, found one, it's yours no charge just cover postage.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&psc=1
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 31 Aug 17, 10:19:27
Brilliant Mike, thank you so much!  :828:

I may as well order some of your spacers if that's OK and will PM you my details. Paypal OK?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 02 Sep 17, 10:51:37
Spacers arrived (and spring clip).

Thanks again Mike.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: nrps1 on 05 Sep 17, 11:48:32
*Originally Posted by Brickit [+]
Just completed the headlight/sidelight upgrade to LEDs and been on a little run to test things out.......Fantastic.  :celebrate:
Out in the country on full beam it might as well be daylight.
Used the following:-
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=toppower+h7   £66.00
https://www.hids-direct.co.uk/501-w5w-5w-cree-canbus-led-extremely-bright-sidelight-bulbs/         inc postage £12.45 pair.
Also, last but not least, a pair of Maccmike's essential spacers.
See and be seen in one!  :002:

Just happened across this post and saw your recent update, sounds good, thanks for the links! Will this affect the MOT and remain road legal? How long to fit, about an hour with a few swear words?!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 05 Sep 17, 12:03:25
*Originally Posted by nrps1 [+]
Just happened across this post and saw your recent update, sounds good, thanks for the links! Will this affect the MOT and remain road legal? How long to fit, about an hour with a few swear words?!

Mine passed MOT with HID fitted, so these will pass without issue  :028:
I updated mine to led a few weeks back in my lunch hour.  :031:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Brickit on 05 Sep 17, 12:38:58
*Originally Posted by nrps1 [+]
Just happened across this post and saw your recent update, sounds good, thanks for the links! Will this affect the MOT and remain road legal? How long to fit, about an hour with a few swear words?!
The first main and sidelight, nearside, took me about 90 mins. The offside about 15. Experience is a big timesaver!
There's nothing difficult about the job, but it just took me time to figure out how it all goes together, how to keep it waterproof  and decide how to secure all the bits so nothing fouls the steering!  A pair of long nosed pliers help to release and fasten the spring clips, otherwise no special tools needed and no need to remove fairings or any of that palaver.
As far as the MOT goes, no idea. I'm keeping the old bulbs just in case. Even if I have to change them, it will only be a 20 min job now!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 05 Sep 17, 12:53:33
Passed MOT OK last year, testers only comment was 'they're f*****g bright'.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: nrps1 on 05 Sep 17, 01:35:41
Perfect, thanks all!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 09 Sep 17, 01:01:59
Well I bought these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01HXEYCP4/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item

And this is what they look like compared to Osram Night Breakers. First row dip beam LH Osram with RH Safego, second on main beam LH Osram RH Safego. I do need to still adjust the lights aim.


Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 14 Sep 17, 12:31:09
Now that I've adjusted the levels of the fitted LEDs.
Top row, L to R dipped beam: Osram Night Breakers, LEDs as fitted, LEDs levelled
Bottom Row L to R main beam: ONB, LEDs as fitted, LEDs levelled.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 19 Sep 17, 11:22:37
20% OFF AT MO
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 19 Sep 17, 11:26:18
*Originally Posted by hairball [+]
20% OFF AT MO

Usefull info, nope!  :027:

What and where would help. I've already got mine though so don't really care.  :008:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 19 Sep 17, 11:43:33
well read the post and the op shows a link so ermmmmm its them thats 20% off thats what the whole posts about doh!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: zxkittyhawk on 01 Nov 17, 08:07:41
Thanks Maccmike for this information and the supply of the spacers, I have made this mod over the last few days and tonight was my first night ride out after the mod. This modification has extended my ride time and has been well worth the investment. The install went well yesterday with no problems, I've just had to change the headlight aim to suit the new led lights. Thanks once again, Paul.  :031: 
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 01 Nov 17, 11:57:25
I've now done over 3000 miles with the ones I fitted. They survived Spain (easy) and Morocco (not so easy!!!) and I'm very pleased.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 03 Jan 18, 01:27:24
Just a public thank you to maccmike for supplying the spacers.

Many thanks Mike
 :820:
 :490:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 18 Jan 18, 08:36:59
Hi all, I’m still new to this forum still and new to SX life.

I was directed to this topic page by another member (thanks Bart) after this discussion popped up on another page I was reading.

Despite utterly loving my new SX so far on the most part, the one thing that really annoys me is how awful the headlights are!
I have an hours commute which is in complete darkness this time of year. I could barely see in front of me first time out, let alone warning other road users I’m there!

I’ve been trying to catch up on this page but I’m struggling to read all 30 pages and starting to strain my eyes trying to read it on my phone!

Can someone please catch me up...?
I’ve looked at both the original link at start of this topic and the amazon link. Both look reasonable and look to be able to fix the problem.
However, I’m about as technically minded as a gold fish! So if I get one of either of these kits, do I need to get anything else to get them to fit? I can’t work out if I’ll need spacers or not and where to get them?

I basically need a shopping list and Lego style instructions
 :087:

Many thanks everyone,

And thanks to Maccmike for starting this topic
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 19 Jan 18, 12:51:52
Shopping list as follows, LED headlight kit (see link below for one of the many available from Amazon), a pair of spacers from me.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073XHXXXH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1

Fitting is fairly straight forward but a bit fiddly.

1. Remove 4 screws holding dash panel and place to one side.
2. Unplug cable from back of headlight.
3. You then see (picture 2) rear of OEM adapter and rubber boot.
4. Remove rubber boot and you see bulb, spring clip and OEM adapter. (Picture 3)
5. Unhook spring clip and remove bulb and adapter.
6. Insert LED bulb and an aluminium spacer and hook spring clip back in place. (Picture 4)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4711a72ac6b05c2acb116.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4708aaf6260f3b840ba4e.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4710a87b2e765592d7d11.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4712a8638ab72c1d54930.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 19 Jan 18, 12:58:01
Continuing from previous post.

7. Refit rubber boot and screw heatsink onto rear of bulb. (Picture 1)
8. Locate driver in a suitable place, I use self adhesive velcro but double sided tape is also good.
9. Plug OEM adapter onto driver input cable and plug bike connector into adapter.
10. Road test, some adjustment may be necessary, although I didn't need any, but some who have fitted LEDs have.
11. Refit dash panel.


(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4713a966cf0e0e304d86a.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4715a559b7edf2285aa20.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/IMG_4716a7cc49b1273728e49.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 19 Jan 18, 01:35:13
Wow!

 :037:

Thanks maccmike that’s amazing!

I’m ordering the set from amazon that’s in your link, how do I go about getting spacers please?

And once this is completed, do I still end up with one headlight or will both come on?

Thanks again  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 19 Jan 18, 01:40:39
You ask Mike nicely!  :038:

You will still have normal headlight operation!!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 19 Jan 18, 01:45:54
Ask Mike very nicely indeed.  :440:

He supplied mine and they are perfect.

Then say thank you very much.  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 19 Jan 18, 01:52:42
 :828: mdr & buster!

If maccmike is reading then, please please please help me with spacers!
 :440:

Obviously I’ll cover costs, how do we get in touch?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 19 Jan 18, 01:57:13
*Originally Posted by Adam Shand [+]
Wow!

And once this is completed, do I still end up with one headlight or will both come on?

Sadly only major surgery will achieve both headlights on for both dip and main beam, for instance Bi-xenon HID, but this requires headlight assembly removal and dismantling. I have done this mod on 3 bikes but with way LEDs have come on in the last year or so I wouldn't do it again.
I think you will be surprised and pleased with the performance of the LEDs.

I will pm you regarding the spacers.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 19 Jan 18, 01:59:38
Thanks maccmike!

 :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 20 Jan 18, 08:27:59
Just been looking at link to bulbs , Can any one tell me the difference between H7 and H7-s7 bulbs.

 :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 20 Jan 18, 01:50:04
Spacers have arrived and look amazing!

I would never have guessed they were made by hand!

Thanks  maccmike!

 :828:


Just waiting for LED bulbs to arrive now.

Will post here once it’s all done
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Boghead on 20 Jan 18, 06:18:13
Hi maccmike just reading this post any chance of me buying some spacers
off you aswell.  :440:

Cheers John
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 20 Jan 18, 07:32:42
*Originally Posted by Boghead [+]
Hi maccmike just reading this post any chance of me buying some spacers
off you aswell.  :440:

Cheers John
Hi John, PM sent.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 20 Jan 18, 07:53:48
*Originally Posted by Boghead [+]
Hi maccmike just reading this post any chance of me buying some spacers
off you aswell.  :440:

Cheers John

Hey maccmike, might have stumbled across a business opportunity here, bet you must be considering mass producing these spacers by now  :008:

thanks again for helping me out with mine
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Boghead on 21 Jan 18, 10:54:59
Hi Mike

Money sent it will be nice to be able to see of a night time.

Thanks for this

John
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 22 Jan 18, 05:32:47
*Originally Posted by Boghead [+]
Hi Mike

Money sent it will be nice to be able to see of a night time.

Thanks for this

John

Posted today John, so hopefully with you tomorrow.
Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Toonshorty on 23 Jan 18, 02:15:44
I'm keen on upgrading the headlights and sidelights on my 2014 SX as the standard bulbs are shocking.

From what I've read, I'm going to need:

2x H7 LEDs (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073XHXXXH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1)
2x Maccmike spacers
2x 5W5 LEDs (https://www.hids-direct.co.uk/501-w5w-5w-cree-canbus-led-extremely-bright-sidelight-bulbs)

Does that look about right? Anything I've missed?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 23 Jan 18, 07:56:59
*Originally Posted by Toonshorty [+]
I'm keen on upgrading the headlights and sidelights on my 2014 SX as the standard bulbs are shocking.

From what I've read, I'm going to need:

2x H7 LEDs (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073XHXXXH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1)
2x Maccmike spacers
2x 5W5 LEDs (https://www.hids-direct.co.uk/501-w5w-5w-cree-canbus-led-extremely-bright-sidelight-bulbs)

Does that look about right? Anything I've missed?

Looks about right to me  :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Toonshorty on 24 Jan 18, 10:49:01
My only concern with those bulbs is that 80W 8000lm might be excessively bright.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 24 Jan 18, 11:36:14
*Originally Posted by Toonshorty [+]
My only concern with those bulbs is that 80W 8000lm might be excessively bright.

That is the total for both, 40w and 4000lm for one. This is the output most have gone for on here and seems to be fairly standard now. Makes a big difference to night riding.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Toonshorty on 24 Jan 18, 11:39:40
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
That is the total for both, 40w and 4000lm for one. This is the output most have gone for on here and seems to be fairly standard now. Makes a big difference to night riding.

Ah, that's alright then. I was thinking each bulb was 80w and 8000lm :087:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Okkie26 on 24 Jan 18, 02:28:44
Just received my led bulbs,

But do I need to adjust the chuck and base?

The manual says it need some adjustements, but it is not clear to me (okay, blond moment...)

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 26 Jan 18, 06:29:58
I eventually managed to find the time to do the conversion.
I am really pleased that I decided to also do the sidelights a the same time as they would have looked really silly once the headlights were completed.
The side lights were simplicity itself but I still managed to make it difficult by somehow dropping one of the bulbs into the indicator lens cavity!  :430:
Cue half an hour of my wife fiddling around with a pair of long tweezers to recover it.  :828:
Thankfully she stuck around and, truth be told, pretty much fitted the headlights too, a real blessing with the confined space. At least she will know how to do it when she converts her ER6.
Required a bit of adjustment as expected.
They all look really stunning now. Cant imagine why anyone wouldn't do this as a priority.

Once again many thanks to Maccmike, without the very accurately produced spacers it would not have been possible. :828: :820:

 :490:
Cheers,
Ray.


 
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Boghead on 26 Jan 18, 02:02:06
Led lights arrived today now fitted, nice and bright and i can't believe how
easy it was to replace the bulbs.  :028:

Many thanks for the spacers mike.  :828:

Now just waiting for the side lights to turn up.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 26 Jan 18, 02:19:19
The sidelights are easier still. They look a lot better altogether with the all LED's now.

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Broseley on 26 Jan 18, 05:23:22
Just fitted a LED headlight conversion kit to my 2014 bike.
Headlight is now so bright I'll need to wear shades...... :018:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 27 Jan 18, 09:46:43
*Originally Posted by Broseley [+]
Just fitted a LED headlight conversion kit to my 2014 bike.
Headlight is now so bright I'll need to wear shades...... :018:

What kit did you buy?
 :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Broseley on 28 Jan 18, 09:47:48
www.amazon.co.uk/Autofeel-Headlight-Conversion-Perfect-Lighting/dp/B073XHTN82

From Amazon, £34.99.........with spacers from Maccmike :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 28 Jan 18, 12:16:45
*Originally Posted by Broseley [+]
www.amazon.co.uk/Autofeel-Headlight-Conversion-Perfect-Lighting/dp/B073XHTN82

From Amazon, £34.99.........with spacers from Maccmike :002:

I got the spacers from Mike months ago, just could never make my mind up which conversion  kit to go for. There are three on that link, was it just the H7 ( not H7-red or H7-s7) not 100% sure what the difference is.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Toonshorty on 28 Jan 18, 01:05:17
*Originally Posted by jerbear1 [+]
I got the spacers from Mike months ago, just could never make my mind up which conversion  kit to go for. There are three on that link, was it just the H7 ( not H7-red or H7-s7) not 100% sure what the difference is.

The only difference between the black and the red is the heatsink colour as far as I can tell.

Got mine fitted yesterday, really pleased with them.

Before:

(https://i.imgur.com/qwv7PCZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DYj4KUC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/D3KFQkD.jpg)

After:

(https://i.imgur.com/wwTi8hD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/F0R6WVC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/88DpsjU.jpg)

Special shout out to maccmike for the spacers.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 28 Jan 18, 02:23:34
*Originally Posted by Toonshorty [+]
The only difference between the black and the red is the heatsink colour as far as I can tell.

Got mine fitted yesterday, really pleased with them.

Before:

(https://i.imgur.com/qwv7PCZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DYj4KUC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/D3KFQkD.jpg)

After:

(https://i.imgur.com/wwTi8hD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/F0R6WVC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/88DpsjU.jpg)

Special shout out to maccmike for the spacers.

Thanks for that....good colour choice on the bike as well  :047:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: MADMITCH on 28 Jan 18, 03:52:06
*Originally Posted by Toonshorty [+]
The only difference between the black and the red is the heatsink colour as far as I can tell.

The difference between the black and red is you get a years warranty with the black you don't with the red and the s7-h7 are 72W Cree LED's instead of 80W Lumileds and there a little lighter in weight than the black and red but also have a years warranty well that's what I've read on the link
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 28 Jan 18, 05:20:26
*Originally Posted by MADMITCH [+]
The difference between the black and red is you get a years warranty with the black you don't with the red and the s7-h7 are 72W Cree LED's instead of 80W Lumileds and there a little lighter in weight than the black and red but also have a years warranty well that's what I've read on the link

Your a star  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Broseley on 28 Jan 18, 07:20:57
According to the advert on Amazon, I think you still get 1 years warranty on the reds.... :002:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 28 Jan 18, 10:54:27
Finally got around to doing this on my bike!

The results are amazing and it was surprisingly easy to do, thanks to everyone’s help on here.

In the end I used:

1. T10 w5w Car Led Bulb -https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071HSYZWR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_NHKBAb5YWPQ0N

2. H7 headlight bulbs, Autofeel 80W 8000lm 6500K Cool White LED https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073XHXXXH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mMKBAbPH4HXZN

3. Maccmike Spacers.

Only advice I’d give is as silly as it sounds but, unless you’re blessed with a nice garage, make sure you do this in the morning and not late afternoon like I did. Otherwise, like me you’ll end up finishing it in the dark, trying to wedge your iPhone somewhere as a torch  :oh_no:

The hardest part was just trying to replace the clips that hold bulbs in.
I used double sided tape to fix the boxes in place but it doesn’t work well. Stronger tape or self adhesive Velcro might be better.

I would also recommend having a couple of cable ties just to help tidy away the excess wiring. I will go back and do this after a road test tomorrow.

Most importantly, if anyone wants to do this, but like me is worried about their skill. Don’t be, if I can do it anyone can!

It seems the norm to add pictures, so not wanting to disappoint I’ve added some too.

I included a half way picture where the high beam bulb is changed and the normal headlight side is as standard. It really shows the amazing difference.

You can also see by the tpictures how I started in daylight and finished in dark! But it only took less than an hour to complete.

One more mention for Maccmike and a big thank you!   :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 28 Jan 18, 11:05:28
Pictures too large, will post once I work out how to reduce them  :187:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: MADMITCH on 29 Jan 18, 06:31:14
I just use paint and click resize and set it to 50 instead of 100 and save as -------- then use that works every time :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Okkie26 on 29 Jan 18, 08:12:03
You can also install windows picture resize.

https://github.com/bricelam/ImageResizer/releases/download/v3.0/ImageResizerSetup-3.0.exe

Then simple right click on an image en choose 'resize'

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 30 Jan 18, 12:26:05
Thanks but I was trying to upload direct from my iPhone, which wasn't working.

In the end, I e-mailed them to myself and posted from work computer.

Does this forum have a mobile site or app BTW?   :187:

Pictures attached as promised.

One shows the comparison of one side light to the other and another shows the half way stage comparing new LED's to standard bulbs whilst still in bike.


(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/b030d09e03afc0304bbc086462cfec0f.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/13d636da44fd33dadee481f05dbc9ef4.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/bac20f1365e39b93a5b88ab8a8414260.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/a59cbc299621e577ed2f99025d72cb9f.jpg)

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/d18d3d978e7f9a8b47a318ff43d74606.jpg)


Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 30 Jan 18, 12:29:12
ooops!  :oh_no: Don't ask me why their all sideways...or how I rotate them, sorry!  :431:

The ride to work tonight was much better, don't think I'm going to need any adjustment and the road is much easier to see now!

There's a particularly dark, unlit piece of dual carriageway that I ride along near work, It was pretty much impossible to see with old lights and terrifying in the dark and rain. I'm now looking forward to seeing the difference on my way home in the early hours!

 :celebrate:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 27 Feb 18, 12:56:54
great advice im ordering the autofeel now just need and hope mike still doing the spacers please let me know thanks
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 03 Mar 18, 05:52:13
a big thanks to mike for the spacers next day delivery  :828: just waitin on amazon for the bulbs now
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Lime+Sober on 09 Mar 18, 12:12:45
Another public commendation for MacMike's metalwork and distribution service. 24 hour turnaround is amazing. If only the bulbs came with the same speed.

Top man.

Thank you.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Jez.Woodbridge on 10 Mar 18, 06:10:28
Hi Mike, how much are the adapters?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 10 Mar 18, 06:48:27
my bulbs are here just wanted to know if i have to strip any panels before i start ive looked through the search etc couldnt see any details thanks
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 10 Mar 18, 08:09:18
It can be done with just the instrument surround panel removed, but it is fiddly, especially if you have biggish hands. It does make it easier if the side fairings are removed along with the screen and little trim piece under it.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: jerbear1 on 10 Mar 18, 09:04:40
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
It can be done with just the instrument surround panel removed, but it is fiddly, especially if you have biggish hands. It does make it easier if the side fairings are removed along with the screen and little trim piece under it.
:460: Can't argue with that
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 11 Mar 18, 08:52:39
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
It can be done with just the instrument surround panel removed, but it is fiddly, especially if you have biggish hands. It does make it easier if the side fairings are removed along with the screen and little trim piece under it.

 :460: :461:

I managed with just the surround off, but I agree it would be easier with fairings off, I wasn't brave enough.

Replacing these bulbs represents a significant milestone in my technical capabilities  :047: :celebrate: :745:

(I also have small hands size M  :164:)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 11 Mar 18, 12:49:07
ok ill start with just the surround off se how we go thanks all for the advice
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 11 Mar 18, 01:16:39
so does the spacer go on first or last do you take heatshield thing off then put spacer then back on ?????????
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 11 Mar 18, 02:25:19
*Originally Posted by hairball [+]
so does the spacer go on first or last do you take heatshield thing off then put spacer then back on ?????????
Take the bulb completely out and remove the little black adapter at the back (keep this part).

Put new bulb in, then MaccMike Spacer.

Replace metal holding clip so it holds bulb and spacer.

place black cover back.

place power adapter on new bulb

place little black plug adapter on new connector so pins line up with holes on connector.

replace connector on new adapter.

replace dashboard

turn on bike and enjoy the ride!

 :830:


Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 11 Mar 18, 02:51:10
*Originally Posted by Shandy [+]
Take the bulb completely out and remove the little black adapter at the back (keep this part).

Put new bulb in, then MaccMike Spacer.

Replace metal holding clip so it holds bulb and spacer.

place black cover back.

place power adapter on new bulb

place little black plug adapter on new connector so pins line up with holes on connector.

replace connector on new adapter.

replace dashboard

turn on bike and enjoy the ride!

 :830:
top man thanks did look through threads found mikes on page 29 aswell so thanks all there fitted and look mint  :828:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 11 Mar 18, 03:58:58
*Originally Posted by hairball [+]
top man thanks did look through threads found mikes on page 29 aswell so thanks all there fitted and look mint  :828:

 :047: :celebrate: :028:

Well Done, you will really notice the difference!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hairball on 11 Mar 18, 07:22:43
so pleased when i got bike last year headlights rubbish so fitted nightbreakers and thought they looked brilliant compared to standard but on using them they were still rubbish on the road now ive fitted these led it makes the nightbrekers look as bad as standard as i had 1 of each in untill id done the full conversion just need to try them on the road but still too damp and cold for me and my mint sx  :190: :305: :350:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: TFindley on 14 Mar 18, 02:07:43
Hi there maccmike
Found this thread and all the advice while looking into LED's for my Z1000SX. Would first like to say thank you to yourself and everyone for all the information provided and continuing to maintain this thread.

Please could I purchase a set of spacers so I can do an LED upgrade headlight?

Apologies in advance for this next part - I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to bike mechanics and electronics, but I'm trying to learn.

For the side lights: I've been looking around for some and I'm confused which size they are? I've still got some of the following from a previous LED sidelight upgrade I did on another bike, but I'm not sure if they'll be suitable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MAG6RMM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm also unsure whether they need to be canbus compatible bulbs or not - can't seem to find out if my bike is CANBUS or not.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 14 Mar 18, 02:21:22
T10's+ No CANBUS = you're good to go  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: TFindley on 14 Mar 18, 02:51:06
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
T10's+ No CANBUS = you're good to go  :028:

Brilliant! Thanks for that. That's a bit of money saved on the bulbs then. Once I can get some spacers/clips ordered I'll get the H7 LED's ordered and all fitted in one go.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Lime+Sober on 25 Mar 18, 01:23:19
Thanks again to Macmike for his spacers and invaluable guide on p29.
I've installed these now along with sidelights which looked pathetic if I didn't.
A huge improvement. I would certainly recommend for anyone suffering from candlelight syndrome.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Toonshorty on 07 May 18, 02:33:09
Heads up for anyone having any problems with LED sidelights:

I fitted a set of LED headlights and sidelights a while back and they were working great up until the bike was serviced.

The garage actually did a great job of tucking away the transformers but once I got the bike back, I noticed the right sidelight wasn't working. I figured it was just the bulb and figured I'd have a look at it in a few weeks when I had some time. I was riding down the A1 the other day and tried to flash this gentleman to let him out, only he seemed very hesitant despite mashing the pass button. I then realised the pass button wasn't actually working, although the dipped/full beam switch did work - so it wasn't the bulb.

Took the clock fairing off today to have a look, and realised the garage forgot to connect the wire from the right sidelight. Connected it back up expecting the bulb to light up and there was nothing. After much faffing and consulting the wiring guide in the Haynes manual, I remembered LEDs are diodes and therefore need to be fitted the right way round. Flipped the bulb round 180° and both the sidelight and pass switch started working again.

TL;DR If anyone is having issues with LED sidelights and the pass switch, try rotating the bulbs.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 07 May 18, 10:51:16
 :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mladench on 14 May 18, 06:21:58
ok, so i ordered mike's spacers. Do you have any suggestions what Led bulbs to buy (amazon/ebay - ship to slovenia) max. 50€ (or should i buy more expensive one)?

Cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 15 May 18, 09:03:42
*Originally Posted by Shandy [+]
Finally got around to doing this on my bike!

The results are amazing and it was surprisingly easy to do, thanks to everyone’s help on here.

In the end I used:

1. T10 w5w Car Led Bulb -https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071HSYZWR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_NHKBAb5YWPQ0N

2. H7 headlight bulbs, Autofeel 80W 8000lm 6500K Cool White LED https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073XHXXXH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mMKBAbPH4HXZN

3. Maccmike Spacers.

Only advice I’d give is as silly as it sounds but, unless you’re blessed with a nice garage, make sure you do this in the morning and not late afternoon like I did. Otherwise, like me you’ll end up finishing it in the dark, trying to wedge your iPhone somewhere as a torch  :oh_no:

The hardest part was just trying to replace the clips that hold bulbs in.
I used double sided tape to fix the boxes in place but it doesn’t work well. Stronger tape or self adhesive Velcro might be better.

I would also recommend having a couple of cable ties just to help tidy away the excess wiring. I will go back and do this after a road test tomorrow.

Most importantly, if anyone wants to do this, but like me is worried about their skill. Don’t be, if I can do it anyone can!

It seems the norm to add pictures, so not wanting to disappoint I’ve added some too.

I included a half way picture where the high beam bulb is changed and the normal headlight side is as standard. It really shows the amazing difference.

You can also see by the tpictures how I started in daylight and finished in dark! But it only took less than an hour to complete.

One more mention for Maccmike and a big thank you!   :828:

*Originally Posted by mladench [+]
ok, so i ordered mike's spacers. Do you have any suggestions what Led bulbs to buy (amazon/ebay - ship to slovenia) max. 50€ (or should i buy more expensive one)?

Cheers

Get the ones mentioned in this previous posting, link to a good set of side lights in there too!
Running side lights as well really makes a difference  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: trialsguy on 16 May 18, 03:59:10
I bought the LED bulbs show in the link, above, a few months ago.  I've just installed them.  But I've not yet ridden at night.

Questions -

1) Is it OK to have the heat sink "inside" the rubber boot?  How hot does the heat sink get?

2) I oriented the LED to the 12 o'clock position, to mimic the stock H7 filament position.  Is that the best position/orientation?

3) I assumed that I need both "black boxes" connected in series for each bulb.  Is that correct?

Thanks.
 
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 16 May 18, 04:15:52
Heat sink is better outside the rubber boot, enabling better air cooling.
LEDs should be horizontal in orientation = Side to side
2 black boxs  :187:  I can only assume yours have arrived with resistors, which are not needed as the bike is not CANbus loomed.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: trialsguy on 16 May 18, 10:19:50
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
Heat sink is better outside the rubber boot, enabling better air cooling.
LEDs should be horizontal in orientation = Side to side
2 black boxs  :187:  I can only assume yours have arrived with resistors, which are not needed as the bike is not CANbus loomed.

Ah!  A diagram is worth a thousand words.  Mine are oriented like the diagram on the right, the LEDs shine to the sides, and their mounting surface is vertical. 

On the rubber boot, it looks like I would need to cut out the center section of the rubber boot in order to make room for the front (narrower) portion of the heat sink?  As it is, the front of the heat sink is contacting the "wire clip" that holds the bulb in.  It rubbed on the wire clip in two places when I screwed them onto the back of the bulb. But I was able to screw them all the way on, just fine.

The instructions that my LEDs came with made no mention of CANBUS resistors, and resistors were not shown in the wordless instruction/diagrams.  I will pull them out of the circuit. 
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mladench on 17 May 18, 05:27:35
Thanks for links and replays. I ordered Leds from amazon that Mike suggested. So now I waiiiit for postman.

Thanks for that diagram @mdr1970. I relay didn't think orientation of led's are important. What else should I watch?
How to protect the connection between the wires (motorcycle cable and bulb connector)? just electric tape? Nothing? I was thinking putin it on a hot glue?

cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 17 May 18, 06:23:26
For the join, I cut off a finger from an xxxl nitrile glove. I use them over the top of any of my gloves for 100% waterproofing! then zip tied each end  :028: but there are of course other solutions available  :008:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mladench on 24 May 18, 08:35:22
I made it :) spacers make it simple. Tnx again mike.
Just one question... when asembly back, then putting rubber back on, how hard did you screw heatsink? Did you screw it with that little imbus too?

Cheers
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: M711 on 13 Jun 18, 01:30:10
Hi guys,

have read through all 35 pages and thank you to all for your contributions.  I was considering ordering these as mentioned by macmike.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&psc=1

My question is are these too long...?  Others seem to be 44mm deep into the housing whereas these are 53.04mm.

Thanks again for guidance.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 13 Jun 18, 07:34:19
*Originally Posted by Shandy [+]
Finally got around to doing this on my bike!

The results are amazing and it was surprisingly easy to do, thanks to everyone’s help on here.

In the end I used:

1. T10 w5w Car Led Bulb -https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071HSYZWR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_NHKBAb5YWPQ0N

2. H7 headlight bulbs, Autofeel 80W 8000lm 6500K Cool White LED https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073XHXXXH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mMKBAbPH4HXZN

3. Maccmike Spacers.

Only advice I’d give is as silly as it sounds but, unless you’re blessed with a nice garage, make sure you do this in the morning and not late afternoon like I did. Otherwise, like me you’ll end up finishing it in the dark, trying to wedge your iPhone somewhere as a torch  :oh_no:

The hardest part was just trying to replace the clips that hold bulbs in.
I used double sided tape to fix the boxes in place but it doesn’t work well. Stronger tape or self adhesive Velcro might be better.

I would also recommend having a couple of cable ties just to help tidy away the excess wiring. I will go back and do this after a road test tomorrow.

Most importantly, if anyone wants to do this, but like me is worried about their skill. Don’t be, if I can do it anyone can!

It seems the norm to add pictures, so not wanting to disappoint I’ve added some too.

I included a half way picture where the high beam bulb is changed and the normal headlight side is as standard. It really shows the amazing difference.

You can also see by the tpictures how I started in daylight and finished in dark! But it only took less than an hour to complete.

One more mention for Maccmike and a big thank you!   :828:

Everything you need listed here, just follow the links and enjoy the results!  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: M711 on 13 Jun 18, 09:33:04
Already checked those shandy....currently unavailable....  that's why I was looking for opinions on whether the other ones that macmike had mentioned  :018:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 13 Jun 18, 11:15:43
*Originally Posted by M711 [+]
Already checked those shandy....currently unavailable....  that's why I was looking for opinions on whether the other ones that macmike had mentioned  :018:

OK, no worries dude.  :028:

Sorry can't help, I'm not confident enough to say yes or no.  :027:

Hold tight, there's plenty of clued up helpful people on here, I'm sure you'll get a reply shortly.

Good luck.

p.s. make sure you get the side lights as well, if you haven't already. They make all the difference to the look once LED headlights are fitted!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: M711 on 13 Jun 18, 11:39:40
Yep already done the side lights....makes so much differance to the look of the front... really need to get the main lights done now.... :018:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 13 Jun 18, 11:43:55
Nice  :830:

hope you get them sorted soon, don't forget to post pictures when you do
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 14 Jun 18, 11:36:26
*Originally Posted by M711 [+]
Hi guys,

have read through all 35 pages and thank you to all for your contributions.  I was considering ordering these as mentioned by macmike.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&psc=1

My question is are these too long...?  Others seem to be 44mm deep into the housing whereas these are 53.04mm.

Thanks again for guidance.

They will be too long.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 14 Jun 18, 12:15:50
I ordered these and they fit and look great:

FMS H7 LED Headlight Bulbs Kit 6500K Cool White Light All-in-One Motorcycle Auto Car Led Headlight Conversion Kit (2pcs)
Price:   £117.99
Sale:   £39.99 Delivery at no additional cost for Prime Members
You Save:   £78.00 (66%




Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 14 Jun 18, 12:16:47
You will need spacers though
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: M711 on 14 Jun 18, 10:59:57
*Originally Posted by Buster Ray [+]
I ordered these and they fit and look great:

FMS H7 LED Headlight Bulbs Kit 6500K Cool White Light All-in-One Motorcycle Auto Car Led Headlight Conversion Kit (2pcs)
Price:   £117.99
Sale:   £39.99 Delivery at no additional cost for Prime Members
You Save:   £78.00 (66%

So just to confirm before I order these...they are ok for length Buster Ray..?  I was concerned with the 53.04mm depth inserted into reflector.  :038:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 15 Jun 18, 05:23:40
*Originally Posted by M711 [+]
So just to confirm before I order these...they are ok for length Buster Ray..?  I was concerned with the 53.04mm depth inserted into reflector.  :038:
They fitted in my 2015 without any problem, you just need the spacers from macmike. Had them in many months now without any issues

Ray
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 15 Jun 18, 09:20:28
*Originally Posted by Buster Ray [+]
They fitted in my 2015 without any problem, you just need the spacers from macmike. Had them in many months now without any issues

Ray

At that length?

These are the ones that I fitted and they only just cleared the inner light fitting. 2016 SX and using the spacers.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01HXEYCP4/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 15 Jun 18, 10:52:51
Hi there Hampshire Man  :828: for confirming they fit/work on an SX  :038:  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Blue on 15 Jun 18, 02:03:38
*Originally Posted by Buster Ray [+]
They fitted in my 2015 without any problem, you just need the spacers from macmike. Had them in many months now without any issues

Ray

Buster Ray, do you have any photos of these lights on your bike?
Can you use high beam/low beam with these?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: M711 on 15 Jun 18, 05:18:53
*Originally Posted by whyhaveone [+]
At that length?

These are the ones that I fitted and they only just cleared the inner light fitting. 2016 SX and using the spacers.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01HXEYCP4/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item

Thanks whyhaveone, have just ordered those.  Going to have a go at making my own spacers as maccmike is away at the moment.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 19 Jun 18, 06:42:36
*Originally Posted by Blue [+]
Buster Ray, do you have any photos of these lights on your bike?
Can you use high beam/low beam with these?

They work exactly like the originals so yes high and low beam as normal. For the price you may as well change the side light too, very easy to do and quite cheap, I used these:

501 (W5W) 5W CREE Canbus LED Extremely Bright Sidelight Bulbs
HD1109   1   £9.95 GBP   £9.95 GBP
Easy to fit, same fitting as OEM, actually brighter than my OEM low beam.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Berber on 14 Aug 18, 11:45:08
I replaced the side lights last night. I will do the headlights tonight all being well.

One thing I did notice was that the rubber boot appeared to also cover the fitting at the rear of the light. I assume it is a separate piece of rubber and when you grip and pull it, it will come away with the connector at the rear of the bulb (hopes this makes sense)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: M711 on 15 Aug 18, 05:09:30
From memory I think you disconnect the plug from the back of the bulb, then pull the rubber cover away, then under that is the spring clip which holds the bulb in place.
It was a while ago I did mine, and it really does make a huge difference.  Ive just yesterday changed my other bike to led.  😉
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Berber on 15 Aug 18, 10:26:42
Thanks guys. I finally worked it out (DUH)

All fitted and all well!

Thanks again.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: grumpybiker on 18 Aug 18, 08:50:59
Fine, FINE... I guess i'll do this mod. No rush for me, though; My night riding is almost 100% commuting home from work along a short, well-lit route.

I *was* going to buy a pair of Osram Nightbreaker Laser bulbs, but this seems a better option.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 18 Aug 18, 09:34:04
*Originally Posted by grumpybiker [+]
Fine, FINE... I guess i'll do this mod. No rush for me, though; My night riding is almost 100% commuting home from work along a short, well-lit route.

I *was* going to buy a pair of Osram Nightbreaker Laser bulbs, but this seems a better option.

Good idea, you won't regret it!

Don't forget to be REALLY nice to Maccmike when asking for spacers...

If he's not started mass producing these by now, I can't imagine why  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: grumpybiker on 18 Aug 18, 09:41:37
Well, if i can't get locally-sourced, i can always buy some of those Celica spacers and trim them down.

These aren't at the top of 'The List' though.

1. Tank grips (stomp)
2. Tyres (Road 5)
3. Seat (Sargent - Though still waiting to sell my cans etc to fund it)

And i also need to get some steel bar-ends made to cut the vibration down.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 18 Aug 18, 10:46:58
That's quite a list, good luck!

you'll enjoy the Road 5's there a good new tyre in my opinion. But make sure you read the posts about them before deciding
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: grumpybiker on 18 Aug 18, 11:15:35
*Originally Posted by Shandy [+]
That's quite a list, good luck!

you'll enjoy the Road 5's there a good new tyre in my opinion. But make sure you read the posts about them before deciding

They're pretty damn good. Had a set of 4's on my old VFR, then a set of 5's which were even better. Love those tyres.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shandy on 19 Aug 18, 12:47:46
*Originally Posted by grumpybiker [+]
They're pretty damn good. Had a set of 4's on my old VFR, then a set of 5's which were even better. Love those tyres.

 :460: :461: :062:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: BikerJoe on 29 Sep 18, 12:51:25
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but another thumbs-up from me for LED headlight conversion.

Fitted a set of https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07FF86HYM/ last weekend. Very easy job to do but I did take the fairing off on both sides for easier access. A set of maccmike's spacers worked a treat - thanks for those - and the voltage regulators fitted nicely on either side of the fairing support bracket using double sided sticky foam tape and cable ties. I also wrapped the plugs in plastic and cable tied the wiring up to stop it flapping around. To reduce dazzling flashes over bumps and with pillion, I adjusted the low beam down a little bit but will see how it goes.

Went out for a test ride the other night and, wow, the difference is amazing with plenty enough light to make good progress down pitch black roads and still clearly see what's ahead.

I originally ordered a different set but when they arrived it turned out to be an H4 kit which was labelled as H7. Amazon doesn't have a "wrong item sent and I want the correct replacement" returns option, just "wrong item" to get a refund but by the time I'd returned it, got the refund and looked to order again, the price had gone up by several pounds. Cheeky sods! There do seem to be quite a few kits like this on Amazon which appear to only differ in the label on the voltage regulator so I went for this slightly cheaper set instead.

Cheers, Joe
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 29 Sep 18, 04:43:23
For me they are one of the best bike changes that I have made.

I immediately noticed that many more cars were likely to move over when you came up behind them, rather than just sitting in an outside lane. Mine are aimed so that I can get as much forward vision as possible on dip beam and I've only been flashed once.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Brickit on 29 Sep 18, 07:24:25
LED lights are definitely one of the top 3, must do, sx upgrades. Lights, seat and screen.
Besides being able to see in the dark, I feel other drivers ( the smidsyes) see me better. I'm now more confident that the car threatening to pull out of the junction 50 yards ahead won't do it, because they will have seen me. Similar impact on the car I'm just about to overtake.
When every driver has the bright, white/bluey lights, the effect may wear off, but for now, it's another good reason for upgrading.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: SteveMat on 19 Oct 18, 08:54:56
I fitted these yesterday:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Autofeel-Headlight-Conversion-Perfect-Lighting/dp/B073XHTN82

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARH-Auto-Accessories-Sidelight-Bulbs/dp/B01DMK3024/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1539237736&sr=1-3-spons&keywords=T10+501+%28W5W%29+5W+CREE+LED&psc=1

Took less than an hour, as I removed the side panels for ease of access.  The side lights are simple and a no-brainer, one for one swap.  The headlights are a different matter as they are a different construction to that which others have fitted. 

The LED come with a removable collar and a sprung ball keeps it in place.  This allows you to rotate the LED and means you do not need a spacer, as the spring clip fastens down on the collar.  You insert the collar, fasten the clip, then insert the LED.

The second point is that there is no separate box for the drivers.  The drivers are built into the LED body.

This all sounds easier, however, there is a problem.  The heatsink is fixed to the LED, i.e. it doesn't unscrew and therefore you cannot get the heatsink on the outside of the rubber without cutting the neck off the rubber seal.

Now I figure the rubber seals don't cost that much and so I will cut the dipped headlight rubber seal to fit but leave the main beam as it is, with the neck of the rubber seal inverted, so that it sticks out.  With the heatsink inside, it doesn't actually touch the rubber and as I try not to be out at night, then the main beam will hardly get used (get hot).

If this doesn't work out then it is not a major loss as I have some Macmike spacers and these LED cost less than £20.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: whyhaveone on 19 Oct 18, 10:04:07
Nice wright up.
It's amazing how these keep on coming down in price!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 25 Nov 18, 04:56:28
They look good but the link takes me to a H4 bulb,  not H7?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: SteveMat on 25 Nov 18, 08:55:50
They are probably out of stock for the H7.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 25 Nov 18, 10:50:27
*Originally Posted by Foxy [+]
They look good but the link takes me to a H4 bulb,  not H7?

These are good Foxy, just fitted a pair for a friend.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FF86HYM/?coliid=I22JLL4R0BV0O5&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Foxy on 25 Nov 18, 07:20:49
Thanks Mike. I've already got some LED's on the SX but just decided to opt out of the company car scheme and purchase my own little runaround. It's got halogen bulbs, not sure if H4 or H7 yet but LED's are high up on the list of potential upgrades so will keep these in mind  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 26 Nov 18, 01:39:53
Fitted some to the wife's Mini, what a difference, well worth doing.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 10 Dec 18, 01:00:52
Hi

Are the amazon ones that maccmike posted the link for the ones to go for. I have read that a collar is required. Is this for all LED light conversions or specific ones. If so where can i purchase the collars from

Thanks

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 10 Dec 18, 01:08:58
Maccmike can supply the spacers required.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 10 Dec 18, 02:56:21
*Originally Posted by Buster Ray [+]
Maccmike can supply the spacers required.

Are you his agent now  :187:  :038:  :745:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 10 Dec 18, 03:06:48
Now now Mark.  :192: This is the one I would go for, it is advertised as Philips chip and has the removable heat-sink which makes it easy to fit. It needs the spacers though, PM me if you want some.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FMS-LED-Headlight-Motorcycle-Conversion/dp/B06XDZ75H1/ref=sr_1_36_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1544454157&sr=8-36-spons&keywords=h7+led+headlight+bulb&psc=1
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 10 Dec 18, 03:40:27
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
Are you his agent now  :187:  :038:  :745:
I got mine from Mike and they worked, simples
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Idwal67 on 18 Dec 18, 03:52:24
Have ordered the bulbs and spacers but does anyone have any pics of how bulbs and spacers fit together?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Buster Ray on 18 Dec 18, 04:01:47
Use the search function there full instructions posted
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: d5aul on 01 Feb 19, 01:44:55
I fitted my LED Headlight bulbs last night, Thanks to maccmike for the spacers.
A few things I’d like to note, the Bulbs that were being recommended lately were out of stock on Amazon, I managed to find some others on Amazon which appeared to be identical.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076YBCQXN?ref_=pe_3187911_248764861_302_E_DDE_dt_1
The problem I found was that the connector that joins the bulb to the driver seemed to be the opposite way to that shown on maccmike’s first post on this topic, this meant the screw collar was on the bulb side, this is slightly too large to pass through the heatsink, therefore to install the maccmike spacers I had to remove the bulb seating collar with the tiny allen screws, slide on the spacer & re fit the seating collar taking care that the bulb alignment remained the same.
Instead of using the H7 Adaptor on the original bulbs for connecting the driver to the bike, I removed the spade connectors from the plastic housing on the bikes headlight connectors, then added some heat shrink to the spade connectors & connected them to the driver plug. This left a slightly less bulky connector to tuck away.
Not been out on the bike yet but the lights seem brighter & much whiter in the Garage!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Fluff on 11 Feb 19, 08:29:14
Purchased everything I needed including the spacers from Maccmike(massive thanks and fast postage) I waited for a half decent day as weather has been pretty cold. This is the kind of job I would probably not normally do but after reading the previous comments (cheers to you all) I gave it a go, in total about half an hour in total and a massive difference, I have not ridden the bike at night since I found out how poor the light really were. But now I’m off out...
A huge thanks to all who added to this post and uploaded images.
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/1B3FCF00-38EF-42A0-AC07-777488ABC05C.jpg)
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/DEC43A76-40FD-42D9-A7D8-98971B45F4E1.jpg)
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/9666E09F-8450-40A4-95CC-7B042D7B7428.jpg)
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/756F8C27-5211-4FB0-9932-DDAAC7FBC1DA.jpg)
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/B4D04197-DB3F-48F0-927E-822EF5BB5CF7.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 12 Feb 19, 03:47:30
Wow , a 30 minute job. Thats amazing. What did you have to remove etc. What led lights did you use

Thanks

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Fluff on 12 Feb 19, 05:39:41
Hi shorty if you go to page 29 of this post you will find everything you need to know about swapping over to LEDs you physically only remove 4 screws and then follow the instructions on pg29 (I bought a set of spacers as suggested by most from Maccmike, and that’s about it . I’ll attch photos of what I bout and it was from amazon. Good luck

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/A25ED8FB-5C9E-41F2-B655-8231CD79F3E3.jpg)
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/2119F9B9-73DF-431B-AB0F-0244E50F8778.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: erajaot on 06 Mar 19, 08:46:44
Hi, this will be my first post in this forum...Hello everyone.

I have been a member for some time and had great help with the information available in the forum and now , latest, from this LED headlight thread. It has been a lot of communication regarding the aluminium spacers from maccmike. I have found them on eBay and placed an order for an easy upgrade to LED. I haven't seen this link before (or I may have missed it) so I add it here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/H7-Headlamp-Bulb-Spacers-1-pair-LED-HID-upgrade-high-quality-aluminium/323687605859


Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: keyz_me on 20 May 19, 10:20:50
Hi guys, Quick question. Does any one notice the heatsinks get really hot? Burn yourself hot? I was installing on my Z over the weekend and took them out again. Is it anything to worry about or am I just over cautious?

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 21 May 19, 08:57:57
What make and model did you get ?

Thanks
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 May 19, 01:18:33
*Originally Posted by keyz_me [+]
Hi guys, Quick question. Does any one notice the heatsinks get really hot? Burn yourself hot? I was installing on my Z over the weekend and took them out again. Is it anything to worry about or am I just over cautious?

The heatsink on mine barely gets warm. What LEDs have you got? If they are getting that hot, enough to burn, I would not install them.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: keyz_me on 21 May 19, 04:23:03
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076YBCQXN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Got these ones, someone linked them on this thread somewhere! Yeah I left the cover off and the bike parked running for about 10 mins and it was getting hot enough to burn I think...
Will have to buy another set. Which ones have you fitted Mike? Thanks for the spacers btw!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 May 19, 04:46:59
*Originally Posted by keyz_me [+]
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076YBCQXN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Got these ones, someone linked them on this thread somewhere! Yeah I left the cover off and the bike parked running for about 10 mins and it was getting hot enough to burn I think...
Will have to buy another set. Which ones have you fitted Mike? Thanks for the spacers btw!

These are the ones I have. Can't see why it would make much difference but mine are stated as Philips chips and yours are stated as Cree chips. Rode today for over an hour and the heat-sink was barely warm. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/?coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: keyz_me on 21 May 19, 06:39:06
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
These are the ones I have. Can't see why it would make much difference but mine are stated as Philips chips and yours are stated as Cree chips. Rode today for over an hour and the heat-sink was barely warm. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/?coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Yeah it is strange! I started reading about ones that have a fan in them. But there could be an annoying noise with those. I might just order the set you have and see how they go. At least they are not expensive.. and they look the part :)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 05 Jun 19, 08:50:48
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
These are the ones I have. Can't see why it would make much difference but mine are stated as Philips chips and yours are stated as Cree chips. Rode today for over an hour and the heat-sink was barely warm. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/?coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Hi Mike
I have decided to fit these to my 2016 SX but l need the spacers.
How do l obtain these please?
Cheers. John
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 05 Jun 19, 10:09:55
PM sent John.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 10 Jun 19, 08:10:01
Thanks to maccmike for supplying the spacers plus some very useful advice l converted my head lights to LED over the weekend.
What a fantastic improvement. :001:
Two tips l learnt as l went along;
Before changing anything l shone my headlights onto the inside of my garage door and marked the beam positions with masking tape.
Put LEDs in and checked beams on the door and found that l had put the LEDs top/bottom when should be left/right.
Just a few minutes to take them out, loosen grub screws to turn them 90 degrees then retested on the garage door.
Beam alignment then exactly matched the originals. :046:
These tips may have been posted before but hopefully it may help someone.
I will probably be out after dark on Wednesday so will let you know how they perform on the dark lanes.
Cheers.
John
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 10 Jun 19, 10:42:53
Good couple of tips. How long did it take in the end and what led lights did you go for.

Thanks
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 10 Jun 19, 11:21:29
I bought these as recommended by maccmike;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XDZ75H1/?coliid=IUJH7Q5H7K2BY&colid=EMQAOD6337BI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it.
Probably took me a couple of hours but some of that was chatting with a mate who came to have a look and l was deliberately going very slow and over thinking each bit.
Also l only removed the small cockpit fairing, if you can be bothered to remove the side fairing panels it would make it easier connecting up and making it all tidy.
I really need to make it tidier when l next have the fairings off for another reason.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Chippy on 27 Jun 19, 08:34:44
Hi guys im new to this im after some spacers for leds on my sx can anybody help me out here
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 27 Jun 19, 09:08:59
PM sent.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hwassall on 28 Jun 19, 09:51:32
Hi all,

I fitted the LED bulbs from Amazon together with the spacers yesterday and they work well. I didn't take any panels and so now sport several cuts and scrapes, I'd recommend some panel removal... One question to those who have done this before, I removed the heatsinks from the bulbs, fitted the bulb and spacer, put the clip back on, put the rubber boot back on and then screwed the heatsink on at the end. Is this what everyone else has done? This does mean that the heatsink is not screwed all the way on due to the rubber.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 28 Jun 19, 09:54:31
Yes, this is what we've done also - How have you now got cuts and scrapes externally, when fitting headlight bulbs internally :187:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Chippy on 28 Jun 19, 09:57:29
Lol its only 4 screws just remove the clock surround it makes life much easier not cuts n scrapes im going to just trim the rubber a bit so heat shink fits better  :062:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: hwassall on 28 Jun 19, 10:00:36
Yeah, I know....   will look at trimming the rubber as well, cheers!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 28 Jun 19, 11:49:12
I haven't trimmed the rubber and don't see it as a problem. Just tightened the heat-sink so it presses on the rubber enough to stop it unscrewing. Also if for some reason I want to revert to halogen bulbs everything is standard and straight forward.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gipsymagpie on 21 Sep 19, 08:10:27
Thanks to the spacers fitting mine was dead easy this evening (with panels removed).  Needed to play with the orientation of the LED to get a similar light pattern to the OEM bulb.  I also tilted it down a bit to do some incremental testing for dazzle.  Need t have worried as loads of light out the front and no flashes from incoming drivers.  Full beam is a revelation.  Well worth the money.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 24 Sep 19, 12:15:37
Finally hoping to do this next week all ready for the darker evenings

Any preferred led lights to install. Would rather fit a tried and tested led light

Thanks

Graham
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 24 Sep 19, 12:26:43
Could try reading back through the thread and checking some of the links to tried and tested bulbs  :027:

Just a thought  :164:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 24 Sep 19, 12:43:07
Yep could
Do but some of the posts of items are from may June so was hoping or thinking someone may have used a different or updated product.

Thanks
For your help though
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 24 Sep 19, 01:55:28
These are what l fitted after consultations with maccmike; https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XDZ75H1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
I still cannot believe the difference they have made and honestly recommend them.
Plus of course spacers from maccmike.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Robbus on 29 Sep 19, 11:44:51
Big thanks to Maccmike for super quick supply of the spacers. Bulbs are in and look to be working great. First proper test tomorrow night.

Has anyone managed/bothered to tighten the grub screw on the heat sinks?

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 29 Sep 19, 01:45:14
*Originally Posted by Robbus [+]
Big thanks to Maccmike for super quick supply of the spacers. Bulbs are in and look to be working great. First proper test tomorrow night.

Has anyone managed/bothered to tighten the grub screw on the heat sinks?

Cheers,
Rob

Thanks Rob. Found it too difficult to get at the grub screw so didn't bother to tighten it. My thoughts are the heat sink will not come loose if tightened enough against the rubber boot, and after 3 years there are no signs of it coming off.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Robbus on 29 Sep 19, 09:01:10
*Originally Posted by maccmike [+]
Thanks Rob. Found it too difficult to get at the grub screw so didn't bother to tighten it. My thoughts are the heat sink will not come loose if tightened enough against the rubber boot, and after 3 years there are no signs of it coming off.

My thoughts too, and it's easy enough to stick a hand in to check them now and again. Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Runich on 01 Oct 19, 11:16:09
Many thanks to Maccmike for supplying his spacers.  I fitted the LED head and side lamps yesterday (the same models as previous recommendations) and they work really well.  One gotcha is that I found the grub screws on the heat sink are delicate and quite difficult to remove with the supplied allen key.  I had to send one set back since the grub screw was rounded off and I couldn't remove the heat sink.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 02 Oct 19, 10:38:22
Morning

Im just about to have a go with the led install and just wanted to check that i have the spacer correct. Thanks all
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Runich on 02 Oct 19, 10:45:05
Pretty much, although the spacer should be pushed up so that it is flush and lined up with the flange on the LED lamp.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 02 Oct 19, 10:58:34
AH cheers, so no gap then between the original and Mikes spacers ?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Runich on 02 Oct 19, 11:04:03
Yes, that's right.  Then install into lamp housing, secure with clip, install the rubber cover and replace the heatsink.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Shorty on 02 Oct 19, 05:03:20
Well job done and thanks to every one for the advice. Took fairing panels off to make life easier. All done now including the side lights.

Cheers all

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gipsymagpie on 18 Nov 19, 07:08:23
Now had LED in for a while with no issues, although my led don't seem to have the external fan you all seem to have.

Anyway, decided to add my Denali spots too so now have veritable light fest.

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/20191118_154643_exported_1574103450322.jpg)

In reality all lights are a good colour match (LED in headlight, LED sidelight bulbs, Barkbuster LED handguards, 2x Bikevis bullets plus Denali D2 spots (in 1000% more with high beam, 50% with dipped).   Night ride test to come.

Also just in case there are any questions, yes the indicators do still stand out when lit.

Used a mounting plate on same bolt as r&g bungs

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/20191118_124154_exported_1574103531285.jpg)
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: roketvargas on 02 Dec 19, 01:26:11
Hi everyone, im a new member from Argentina. I just want to know if this kit is going to work:
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-617283037-kit-led-cree-h7-h1-9006-h11-h3-psx24-20000lumen-chip-led-csp-_JM?quantity=1#position=4&type=item&tracking_id=fb451051-106e-4751-bf08-08b827697da0

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-745107122-kit-cree-led-h7-f1-h11-h1-h16-disipad-macizo-2-t10-blancas-_JM?searchVariation=33172963147&quantity=1&variation=33172963147#position=5&type=item&tracking_id=fb451051-106e-4751-bf08-08b827697da0

I already have a 3d printed spacer. I share the link:

https://www.myminifactory.com/es/object/3d-print-2009-ninja-250-h7-led-stand-off-84826

My only doubt is if im going to have problems with the rubber.

Thanks!

Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: SteveMat on 02 Dec 19, 07:07:47
They look similar to the ones I bought.  I did not need the spacer with mine but I did have to trim the rubber to make the hole bigger.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ru55w38573r on 08 Dec 19, 04:06:56
Quite tired of my poor lighting so gonna do this thing.

I have been working through both ends of this thread.. I’ve sent mccmike a PM for spacers and have found H7s on amazon on page 42 ish of this thread.

Question: Any newer links for LEDs available guys?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 08 Dec 19, 04:34:45
I bought these earlier this year and they are excellent.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XDZ75H1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Runich on 08 Dec 19, 05:28:49
I bought the same, they are really good.  The only problem I had was removing the grub screw on one of the heat sinks with the supplied allen key.  I think I used a better quality imperial sized allen key which was slightly larger to get it out.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 09 Dec 19, 09:30:51
Good point l forgot about that.
Having already seen that a number of people had problems with the grub screw l sorted through my collection of allen keys until l found one that was a good snug fit, no problem then.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 12 Dec 19, 05:04:46
Short video to aid LED installation. Bit more of a fiddle on the bike but it shows the general idea. https://vimeo.com/manage/312081392/general
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Markspecialized on 16 Dec 19, 12:42:30
Hi Maccmike,
   Are you still making the spacers for fitting led bulbs if so can you let me know how much you charge. Also which bulb kit would you recommend at this point in time. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 16 Dec 19, 02:27:01
 Hi, yes mate, still making them. Here is a link to what i think is the best buy at the moment for the bulbs. Will pm you with details for spacers. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Loutsbe-8000Lumens-Conversion-Automotive-Headlights/dp/B076YBCQXN
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: muggs on 17 Dec 19, 11:54:28
Hi All, Just ordered the led,s from Amazon purely cos they sound Brilliant. I have got the spacers from macmike a few weeks ago. So i should have reasonably no trouble in fitting them, its just that there is limited space to work on them.  :oh_no:  :023: :023:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 18 Dec 19, 09:15:31
I took the fairing off before l started which only takes a few minutes and found l had plenty of room then to play.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 18 Dec 19, 10:44:41
*Originally Posted by gojonnygo [+]
I took the fairing off before l started which only takes a few minutes and found l had plenty of room then to play.

Makes it much easier, just be really careful this time of year, as the plastics will be cold and more brittle, making it much more likely you'll snap one of the little b@st*rd slot tabs  :023: :oh_no: :019:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: muggs on 18 Dec 19, 03:33:28
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
Makes it much easier, just be really careful this time of year, as the plastics will be cold and more brittle, making it much more likely you'll snap one of the little b@st*rd slot tabs  :023: :oh_no: :019:

Toooooo late. I took the faring of the other day to fit a Rad guard & a few of the little so & so,s broke off.  :023: :023:  Stupid design.
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: gojonnygo on 18 Dec 19, 04:33:27
Don't worry about it mate some of mine are missing and it still fits well. :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ktlp on 20 Dec 19, 04:25:25
Hi to everyone I just finished reading this thread  :087: :087:
I find in AliExpress this

€ 17,67  21% Off | Infitary ZES Chips Car Headlight H4 H7 H1 H3 H8 H11 9005 HB3 9006 HB4 9007 LED Light 3000K 4500K 6500K Adjustable Auto Lamps
https://a.aliexpress.com/rTqcQHXS

And also they suggest to buy with adapters witch is this

€ 3,65  20% Off | Infitary 2Pcs H7 LED headlight Adapter Holder Base for LED H4 H3 H1 H11 H13 9004 9005 9006 9007 880 Headlamp Sockets
https://a.aliexpress.com/KZxNmrTS

Can anyone tell me if is this adapters fits ? And this leds are good ?
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: mdr1970 on 20 Dec 19, 06:24:10
I don't think you'll find anyone here opting to go that cheap.  :431: no offence intended.

If you search led lights you'll find a ton of info with what we've done and opted for  :028:
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: Ktlp on 20 Dec 19, 08:33:24
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
I don't think you'll find anyone here opting to go that cheap.  :431: no offence intended.

If you search led lights you'll find a ton of info with what we've done and opted for  :028:

Yes I know I am just asking 🤷🏻‍♂️!
I already know witch one the forum suggest with mike’s adapter!
Title: Re: LED Headlight Bulbs
Post by: maccmike on 21 Dec 19, 10:33:29
*Originally Posted by Ktlp [+]
Hi to everyone I just finished reading this thread  :087: :087:
I find in AliExpress this

€ 17,67  21% Off | Infitary ZES Chips Car Headlight H4 H7 H1 H3 H8 H11 9005 HB3 9006 HB4 9007 LED Light 3000K 4500K 6500K Adjustable Auto Lamps
https://a.aliexpress.com/rTqcQHXS

And also they suggest to buy with adapters witch is this

€ 3,65  20% Off | Infitary 2Pcs H7 LED headlight Adapter Holder Base for LED H4 H3 H1 H11 H13 9004 9005 9006 9007 880 Headlamp Sockets
https://a.aliexpress.com/KZxNmrTS

Can anyone tell me if is this adapters fits ? And this leds are good ?

In the early days of LED installation I tried the ones with fixed heat sinks and found it was awkward to fit and the rubber boot either couldn't be fitted or had to be modified by cutting therefore risking water and debris ingress plus returning to OEM bulbs is not easy should you want to. Whereas the ones with removable heatsink all this is fairly straightforward.