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Z1000SX Chat => Z1000SX - General Discussion => Topic started by: Travster on November 25, 2018, 11:50:13 PM

Title: 2020 SX
Post by: Travster on November 25, 2018, 11:50:13 PM
Having viewed the new Versys SE at Motorcycle Live, and that the current version of the SX will soon be entering its third year, I think there is a fair chance that the 2020 SX will feature a SE model with a TFT screen, cruise control and electronic suspension. I fear there might be a bit of a price increase too.

Whatever Kawasaki produce in a years time, I really really hope they don't paint it in that minging flat blue!
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Ninjamaster on November 25, 2018, 11:58:54 PM
It'll probably be hot pink or something....
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Cimaj on November 26, 2018, 06:36:41 AM
The one thing which I missing in this bike is electronic Crouise Control. But I hope in this winter I`ll solve this problem :) Other thing  which they will change will be in +. It has great lights, strong engine. Until I have my Garmin new dashboard isn`t necessary for me :)
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 26, 2018, 08:00:57 AM
Do you mean you going o change your bike for one with a cruise control..or have one fitted to this bike?

I thought not having a cruise comtrol would be a issue but the throttle is so light it’s fine.

Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Cimaj on November 26, 2018, 08:31:10 AM
I mean that I will try to fit some system which one guy make for his other brand bike :) We will try to adopt his CC to SX because 17- has TBW and everything looks like it will not be a problem.  One thing what we have to make is a wire. Everything with electronic he has already made so that's why I look optimistic in the future and I will stay with SX longer :)
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: tomcat69 on November 26, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
I think they may replace the engine with 800CC supercharged unit.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 26, 2018, 09:16:15 AM
*Originally Posted by Cimaj [+]
I mean that I will try to fit some system which one guy make for his other brand bike :) We will try to adopt his CC to SX because 17- has TBW and everything looks like it will not be a problem.  One thing what we have to make is a wire. Everything with electronic he has already made so that's why I look optimistic in the future and I will stay with SX longer :)
Cool, let us know how it turns out, may get a bit of extra business  :031:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Cimaj on November 26, 2018, 10:41:03 AM
For sure I’ll let You know :) One thing what makes me consider is kawas warranty however I’ve only 6 months left.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on November 26, 2018, 10:44:25 AM
*Originally Posted by tomcat69 [+]
I think they may replace the engine with 800CC supercharged unit.

You are onto something there - Kawasaki are testing and have patented a small supercharged engine
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on November 26, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/march/kawasaki-ninja-r2-planned/

Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Ninjamaster on November 26, 2018, 05:40:53 PM
*Originally Posted by trivster [+]
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/march/kawasaki-ninja-r2-planned/
those clip ons look a bit low to me. I like the rear end not sure about the front. Interesting prospect none the less!
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on November 26, 2018, 05:56:53 PM
I don't think that's the actual bike, it's sort of a concept mock up of what it might look like.  I guess it will be very similar, ergonomically, to the Z-SX as this is their best selling bike but with a more modern engine for euro 5.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: nimmz on November 26, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
That article is 2 1/2 years old so will be 4 years old by 2020
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: kernowjim1 on November 26, 2018, 08:50:06 PM
*Originally Posted by nimmz [+]
That article is 2 1/2 years old so will be 4 years old by 2020

It is but that's what Kawasaki are working on and have patented an 800cc supercharged engine
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Goodygixxer on November 27, 2018, 05:15:44 PM
It'll probably get those wierd side cornering light thingys as well
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on November 27, 2018, 05:20:46 PM
*Originally Posted by Goodygixxer [+]
It'll probably get those wierd side cornering light thingys as well

Yeah more than likely, not sure if I like them or not...bit gimmicky
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Captain-Failmore on November 27, 2018, 07:26:10 PM
It will no longer be available in the hugely popular "matt vomit blue".  :745:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Teddybear on December 29, 2018, 11:24:10 AM
For me I would sooner have a great start package at a good price than thing I don't need and pay for them in the list price...personal preferences always come it play....also at least this years blue make my 18 silver look popular..lol... :046:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: ian on February 03, 2019, 05:11:21 PM
long time not on here  :830:

anyway, next year (2019/2020) is new bike time  ZZR four year warranty expires March 2020; ZZR is being phased out, H2SX is going to cost me at least £2000 to insure - no I'm not a high risk i just do in excess of 20 000 miles PA for work and the blower need doing every 15000 miles at around £700 - £850.

so may be back to Z1000SX, if it comes with cruise then probably defo - i cannot see why not as the ugly versys thing has it
not bothered about electronic suspenders but cruise with decent sixth gear would be ideal.

what else is there :187: a ditch pump with a fancy badge  :008:

Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: kernowjim1 on February 03, 2019, 07:37:07 PM
*Originally Posted by ian [+]

what else is there :187: a ditch pump with a fancy badge  :008:

Is that a GS boxer reference?  If so, very good  :745:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Teaboy on February 03, 2019, 08:19:44 PM
Can someone please explain to me the current obsession with cruise control on bikes I just can't see the need or the appeal
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: ed on February 03, 2019, 09:14:48 PM
*Originally Posted by Teaboy [+]
Can someone please explain to me the current obsession with cruise control on bikes I just can't see the need or the appeal
I use cruise control on my car through speed camera infested motorway roadworks so that I can concentrate my attention on the road ahead rather than my speedometer. It'd be equally useful on a bike in such circumstances
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: kernowjim1 on February 03, 2019, 09:17:20 PM
*Originally Posted by Teaboy [+]
Can someone please explain to me the current obsession with cruise control on bikes I just can't see the need or the appeal

I agree.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: ian on February 04, 2019, 08:30:48 AM
when you're on the quieter stretches of motorway it is relaxing just to take your hand off the throttle, relax your grip, allow you to maintain a fairly constant speed with out the usual wavering of speeds

if you don't like or find it an "obsession" then fair enough but as i'm on thing everyday its helpful just to have one extra device to assist

i don't understand obsession with six axis imu, tft screens and connectivity but if that makes you "safer" or more complete then fill yer boots
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: burty on February 04, 2019, 09:01:38 AM
I don't understand the obsession with gear indicators.   
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on February 04, 2019, 09:46:25 AM
I don't understand much of anything
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Ninjamaster on February 04, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
*Originally Posted by trivster [+]
I don't understand much of anything

 :008: :008:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Teddybear on February 04, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
Toys...for want of a better word will always hop up the price...I brought my SX due to the value for money factor personally i have never had trac control,power modes, abs and one of the cleanest fitting panniers... :187: so guess I have got plenty of toys to play with...
If I had to be picky :451: I cannot understand why some sort of rad guard is not fitted as standard even plastic one offers something....I stand corrected but not even an option on the genuine parts list...
Like playing cricket with protecting your 'jewels'  :006: :164:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Toonshorty on February 04, 2019, 07:18:49 PM
*Originally Posted by Teaboy [+]
Can someone please explain to me the current obsession with cruise control on bikes I just can't see the need or the appeal

If you're doing a few hours on the motorway then being able to engage cruise control and give your wrist a break is a godsend.

For normal riding it's pointless but for longer stints I would love CC on the SX.

Ideally they would do what BMW did with a lot of their bikes and offer it as an option. It's certainly one I would tick.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Anders on February 04, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
*Originally Posted by tomcat69 [+]
I think they may replace the engine with 800CC supercharged unit.
Oh, I hope you are right. That would be a nice twist. Less cm³, more power and a lot of tourqe.
Yummy!  :820:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Tudor Rebel on February 04, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
Yup think CC would be a benefit..if just to use to keep to the speed limit through the miles n miles of road works.

It’s as if you gave to use it if it’s on the bike, but I bet 99.9% of people would.

Very handy on motorways, though tbh, accelerators on new bikes feel very light compared to older models where I used to get hand/wrist cramps.

On the Sx i dont even feel it tbh.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on February 05, 2019, 12:39:43 PM
I don't think they'll get the current 1043cc engine through Euro 6, so the 800cc supercharge motor is the future.  I doubt they'll be remodelling the SX any time soon like they have with the Versys 1000
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: survi on February 05, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
Well I would like proper seat in first place, CC would be really nice I'm making daily 70miles and couple of times I would use it as I'm using when I'm traveling car

800cc supercharge would be sweet and hope they would weight less and lower this bike
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: nimmz on February 05, 2019, 08:24:45 PM
*Originally Posted by trivster [+]
I don't think they'll get the current 1043cc engine through Euro 6, so the 800cc supercharge motor is the future.  I doubt they'll be remodelling the SX any time soon like they have with the Versys 1000
What happened to euro 5.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: kernowjim1 on February 06, 2019, 09:04:10 AM
*Originally Posted by nimmz [+]
What happened to euro 5.

Brexit?
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Travster on March 10, 2019, 12:11:52 PM
Noticed that Kawasaki are now offering a free tourer upgrade for the SX. I wonder if they are trying to shift stock and this is another sign that a major upgrade is coming. I predict a similar set up to the Versys, with a base model and a tech model. Could be wrong, it has been known before.......
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: whyhaveone on March 10, 2019, 03:21:45 PM
*Originally Posted by Travster [+]
Noticed that Kawasaki are now offering a free tourer upgrade for the SX. I wonder if they are trying to shift stock and this is another sign that a major upgrade is coming. I predict a similar set up to the Versys, with a base model and a tech model. Could be wrong, it has been known before.......

They've done this during most years.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Shandy on March 12, 2019, 03:57:14 PM
*Originally Posted by kernowjim1 [+]
Brexit?

 :745: :047:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Anders on April 15, 2019, 08:48:59 PM
So, are there any "officially unofficial" rumors out there yet about next generation of the SX?
Or are there still just guesses?  :027:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Scotty001 on April 16, 2019, 06:39:15 AM
*Originally Posted by Anders [+]
So, are there any "officially unofficial" rumors out there yet about next generation of the SX?
Or are there still just guesses?  :027:
Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on April 16, 2019, 09:55:19 AM
Just rumours I guess.  I believe the Z1000SX is Kwak's best selling bike so if that's the case, they have to get this right.  I'd like to see something with better fuel economy than the current 1040 motor.  I think the patented 800cc supercharged engine would be ideal - and of course with fly by wire etc things like cruise control are easily added.  It might not be out as soon as next year though, which is fine by me because my PCP runs till 2021!
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Ninjamaster on April 16, 2019, 01:31:58 PM
*Originally Posted by trivster [+]
Just rumours I guess.  I believe the Z1000SX is Kwak's best selling bike so if that's the case, they have to get this right.  I'd like to see something with better fuel economy than the current 1040 motor.  I think the patented 800cc supercharged engine would be ideal - and of course with fly by wire etc things like cruise control are easily added.  It might not be out as soon as next year though, which is fine by me because my PCP runs till 2021!

+1
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Shandy on April 16, 2019, 10:11:04 PM
I think this years new Versy's is an indication of what we can expect on the SX.

The Versy's has been a big hit for Kawasaki and I suspect sales will be similar to the SX.

I agree there will be a top spec / base model choice and

Seeing as Versy's SE has been so well received, I suspect they will transfer over as much of the new tech as possible.

Which means the top-spec will get:

Kawasaki's new semi-active suspension
Cornering LED headlight's
Cruise control
Heated grips
Power socket
And 'self-healing' paint   :005: :112:

As well as new screen design for both models and small styling revamp.

I can't see Kawasaki messing about with the engine too much, apart form some 'Euro Tweaks' to meet future emission standards. Seeing as the engine is the big selling point for SX owners and shared with the Versy's, so they'll be looking to make the most out of that engine.

 :830:

IMHO
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: trivster on April 17, 2019, 02:12:18 PM
I'll need a self-healing wallet....
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Darseyno1 on April 17, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
I test rode the top of the range versys with all the gizmos on it and went for the better bike. The sx
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Shandy on April 17, 2019, 06:50:01 PM
*Originally Posted by trivster [+]
I'll need a self-healing wallet....

 :745:  :745:  :745:  :028:

Think we all will!

Let’s hope Kawasaki realities one of the biggest selling points for the SX is it’s pounds per smile value and keep it sensible!
If you want a tech laden, expensive SX then buy the H2 version!

Having said that I don’t think it’ll be too long before we see an adventure or Versys based H2 model  :005: it’s gotta be the next logical step  :027:

*Originally Posted by Darseyno1 [+]
I test rode the top of the range versys with all the gizmos on it and went for the better bike. The sx

 :062:  :037:
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Chester on April 21, 2019, 12:32:05 PM
@Shandy - I too think the SX will most likely have many more changes for the 2020 model.  I'm holding off buying a 2019 bike to see.  If not, maybe there will be some good deals at the end of the year.
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Rockape737 on April 21, 2019, 07:55:10 PM
When I had mine serviced last week I asked the Dealer. Obviously or not he had no information not already posted. He did say he thought the 800 engine with supercharger is to early for the rest of the range. He also felt the new model may not be until 2021!
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: kernowjim on April 24, 2019, 09:54:30 AM
*Originally Posted by Rockape737 [+]
When I had mine serviced last week I asked the Dealer. Obviously or not he had no information not already posted. He did say he thought the 800 engine with supercharger is to early for the rest of the range. He also felt the new model may not be until 2021!

That's alright with me, I don't foresee me having any improving financials until at least then!
Title: Re: 2020 SX
Post by: Shandy on April 27, 2019, 08:50:06 PM
We will have a standard SX with slight styling tweaks and general niceties like usual update as well as the  latest Euro version compliant

Then an SX SE version with a few more tech bits, semi active suspension being the big selling point!

The SE is Kawasaki’s new marketing tool and will eventually be rolled out over all their long standing models.

It Started with the ZX10R, now Versy’s and the SX would be the next logical choice in line with the three year update pattern.  :830:

Kawasaki are unlikely to mess up the SX formula, especially as it’s got to be one of their, if not the biggest selling bikes.
A smaller capacity supercharged bike, is more likely to be released as a separate model all together.

I’d estimate an A2 friendly bike marketed as an economic commuter and/or stepping stone for newer riders so to introduce them into the Kawasaki brand and eventually a bigger H2 model.

Most other brands have realised the importance of having smaller learner friendly bikes, most recently Triumph with the A2 compatible Street Triple and Street Twin.

Kawasaki obviously already have A2 bikes but they’ll no doubt want to attract new riders towards their supercharged range in the future.

H2 is likely to become its own brand within Kawasaki.(Think Ducati Scrambler, still Ducati but Scrambler is now a brand in itself)

Kawasaki always stated that the main focus for their new supercharged technology was to improve fuel economy and emissions rather than outright performance.

(Of course ridiculously fast acceleration and speed are welcome byproducts  :005:  :046: )

JMHO  :830: