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Title: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on September 23, 2018, 09:39:25 AM
Has anyone used both the PR5 and the Roadtec 01 that can give their direct opinion on which is best. Changing my tyres on Monday morning from stock and stuck between them both, I appreciate that either tyre will be an improvement
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Gothrick on September 23, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
Can't give you any direct feedback but Ride magazine did a group tyre test earlier this year using a Z1000 SX as test mule and they scored the Roadtec 01's best overall, slightly ahead of the PR5's. Certainly influenced my decision to buy the Metzelers and would highly recommend them. Have a look on the inter web the article might be available on their website.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on September 23, 2018, 08:02:21 PM
Yeah I saw it mate. I always take their stuff with a pinch of salt though and prefer the opinion of fellow riders if I'm honest. However saying that either tyre will be great compared to the stock rubber so I'm sure whatever way I choose to go I will be happy. There seems to be alot of love for both across the forums
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Dutchie on September 24, 2018, 06:20:33 AM
Hello,
Had the Roadtec on my sx,  I would suggest to take a look at the Continental Road Attack 3 (55 hight).
Feels much more confident,  no tipping point as the Roadtec 01.

Cheers
Rene
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: mdr1970 on September 24, 2018, 06:57:55 AM
*Originally Posted by Dutchie [+]
Hello,
Had the Roadtec on my sx,  I would suggest to take a look at the Continental Road Attack 3 (55 hight).
Feels much more confident,  no tipping point as the Roadtec 01.

Cheers
Rene

Tipping point  :187: what are you talking about  :027:
I'm close to the end of my second set of 01s and have a third ready to roll, this time with a 55 to try. They are very well balanced tyres and perform well in all conditions, including on track. Depending on how you ride you can expect closer to 8K from a rear and 10k on the front  :028:

I will try the 5s after my next set, but these have been and are my current go to tyre....
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on September 24, 2018, 08:45:45 AM
*Originally Posted by Dutchie [+]
Hello,
Had the Roadtec on my sx,  I would suggest to take a look at the Continental Road Attack 3 (55 hight).
Feels much more confident,  no tipping point as the Roadtec 01.

Cheers
Rene
Thanks for your opinion but unfortunately as a year round commuter in the UK I need a good all year tyre. The road attack are a good dry weather tyre but not anywhere near good enough in the wet. The 01 and pr5 will kick there ass every day of the week. Cheers anyway
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on September 24, 2018, 09:14:12 AM
*Originally Posted by mdr1970 [+]
Tipping point  :187: what are you talking about  :027:
I'm close to the end of my second set of 01s and have a third ready to roll, this time with a 55 to try. They are very well balanced tyres and perform well in all conditions, including on track. Depending on how you ride you can expect closer to 8K from a rear and 10k on the front  :028:

I will try the 5s after my next set, but these have been and are my current go to tyre....
MDR if you're so happy with the 01 what's making you want to change to the PR5 ? And why the change of profile ? Do you not think changing to a 55 profile may make the bike feel a little skittish on the normal UK roads. I can see the benefit for on the track
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: mdr1970 on September 24, 2018, 10:05:28 AM
My friend has now fitted a second set of the 5's to his Blackbird after getting 11.5K from a pair :087: that's impressive from a big, heavy and powerful bike. I ride all year and the extra possible 3 months from a tyre is enticing! I also think it's good to try something new so you know one way or the other if they work for you!

Having ridden the 3's on my ER, I went for the 4's on my SX (2 pairs) based on the comments from this forum's members; I won't go there again! Great in the cold and wet, so good for our UK Autumn and winter, but (for me) horrible in hot weather and bloody dangerous on track. I would have hated them for the summer we just had!  :004:

Angel GT's are great. Good in all temps & conditions and especially on the track. I also got good longevity from them. 10K from the pair with even wear front/rear  :028:

The 01's just clicked for me and I really like them FOR EVERYTHING! I want to try the 55 on the rear with my new Wilbers shock, as the back end is so good/planted now I'm actually able to push the front in longer radius corners; I'm thinking the 55 will give me a little bit more weight on the front end by raising her ass a few mm and maybe save me having to re-spring the front end  :027:
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on September 24, 2018, 11:29:58 AM
The angel GT and at have been my last 4 sets of tyres over 2 bikes and have to agree they are amazing. Not heard many people speak about them on the SX though. I must admit I'm leaning towards the 01 myself, so far I have found the stock suspension fine with a little added preload on the rear however once I've had the tyres changed I'm off to have it properly set up
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Ninjamaster on September 24, 2018, 09:24:31 PM
Nothing to add just subscribing as Ive narrowed to the same 2 choices once my OE Bridgestones are done.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on September 25, 2018, 02:20:58 PM
Same, I will either buy the 5s or the 0.1s for the bike, the bike has just over 4.5k on now, so most likely be early next year.

In for service weekend, having oil n filter changed, just that I know it’s all new. Bit over the miles, but was on tour.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on October 02, 2018, 10:12:54 PM
Well had bike serviced today, n dealer tells me tyres require changing, will go with the 0.1 I think, any recommendations on where to buy I’m in Northampton.

Bike done 4540, and has just under 2mm thread on back tyre, stock.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Ninjamaster on October 02, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
Well had bike serviced today, n dealer tells me tyres require changing, will go with the 0.1 I think, any recommendations on where to buy I’m in Northampton.

Bike done 4540, and has just under 2mm thread on back tyre, stock.

Can't advise on where but would be keen to hear your thoughts once you've had some time with them as I'm leaning towards the 01s myself.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: whyhaveone on October 03, 2018, 09:12:43 AM
*Originally Posted by sanda5506 [+]
The angel GT and at have been my last 4 sets of tyres over 2 bikes and have to agree they are amazing. Not heard many people speak about them on the SX though. I must admit I'm leaning towards the 01 myself, so far I have found the stock suspension fine with a little added preload on the rear however once I've had the tyres changed I'm off to have it properly set up

If you do a quick search you will find lots of positive comments about the Angel GTs, including from me.  :001:
My current pair are at 7500 miles with about 2.5mm left front and rear. Because I do not do many motorway miles they are still reasonably rounded.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: mdr1970 on October 03, 2018, 04:43:14 PM
*Originally Posted by whyhaveone [+]
If you do a quick search you will find lots of positive comments about the Angel GTs, including from me.  :001:
My current pair are at 7500 miles with about 2.5mm left front and rear. Because I do not do many motorway miles they are still reasonably rounded.

These were my favourite tyres on my SX prior to fitting 01's   :018:
Good in all conditions, hot/cold, wet & dry!!!!

I'm now about to fit my 3rd set of 01's on the bounce...kinda tells the story of my preference...to date!  :038:

Each to their own regards tyres, as it depends on how you ride, the roads you ride and the condition, time of year etc, etc, etc....blah, blah, blah  :008:

I would happily fit another set of GT's though & without hesitation if the price was right!  :028:

I will change after this set of 01's [in the spirit of experimentation] as there may be something better for me and I'm considering the RP5's, but want to see much more positive feedback on here first, detailing all year riding and average life expectancy...M7rr's are also on my list though  :oh_no: :027:  :008:
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: SteveMat on October 04, 2018, 07:52:15 AM
 :461:
On my second set of 01.  Previously used GT.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: whyhaveone on October 04, 2018, 05:10:28 PM
Looks like my next set will be Angel GTs or Roadtec 01s depending upon price.

It's great to have a choice of good tyres.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on November 08, 2018, 03:44:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
Well had bike serviced today, n dealer tells me tyres require changing, will go with the 0.1 I think, any recommendations on where to buy I’m in Northampton.

Bike done 4540, and has just under 2mm thread on back tyre, stock.
Did you buy the 01 in the end ? If so whats your impression of them. I'm still running the stock tyres after having my suspension properly setup which made a world of difference to they way they perform but its now time for the stock rubber to go before the weather gets much worse.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 08, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
*Originally Posted by sanda5506 [+]
Did you buy the 01 in the end ? If so whats your impression of them. I'm still running the stock tyres after having my suspension properly setup which made a world of difference to they way they perform but its now time for the stock rubber to go before the weather gets much worse.

Yes I did, think they excellent, everyone says the bike will feel like a different bike, but I’m pretty sure no one believes it, till the change out the OEM tyres.

Bike feels so much better on corners, and through round-a-bouts, with the OEM bike always felt like it was falling into the round-about.

I will try the PR5 next, but they would have to go some to better theses, extremely happy with the 0.1 and would definitely recommend them.

(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/396DB92E-2791-4403-9CE5-80A3DB1D6839.jpg)
(https://images.z1000sx.co.uk/47E3E5E1-7EEB-422C-ADEC-F7440E5512028a097364e3fee4eb.jpg)
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on November 08, 2018, 04:21:58 PM
Great stuff.... cheers for the prompt update.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 08, 2018, 04:57:34 PM
*Originally Posted by sanda5506 [+]
Great stuff.... cheers for the prompt update.
can I ask who did your suspension set up, and what did it cost.

Cheers
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on November 08, 2018, 05:14:55 PM
I used a company called REVS in Halesowen. Its made a world of difference to the handling of the bike and actually increased my confidence with the stock rubber. The front as standard from Kwak is far too soft which is what makes the bike feel like its going to fall over on islands etc. Also at over 16 stone I am border line on the limit of capability for the rear shock and springs which they have suggested changing if I keep the bike, but at the moment the setup has made the bike excellent. She now feels like she is on rails
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 08, 2018, 05:23:38 PM
*Originally Posted by sanda5506 [+]
I used a company called REVS in Halesowen. Its made a world of difference to the handling of the bike and actually increased my confidence with the stock rubber. The front as standard from Kwak is far too soft which is what makes the bike feel like its going to fall over on islands etc. Also at over 16 stone I am border line on the limit of capability for the rear shock and springs which they have suggested changing if I keep the bike, but at the moment the setup has made the bike excellent. She now feels like she is on rails

Thanks
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Ninjamaster on November 08, 2018, 05:40:40 PM
Thanks. For the update! I'm waiting till my. OE tyres. Wear out then going for 01s too.

Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: KD on November 08, 2018, 09:59:41 PM
Right .. All this talk of the 01's ...

Has anyone got photos of what the FRONT TYRE looks like when worn out ?
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: mdr1970 on November 09, 2018, 06:39:07 AM
If you'd asked a few weeks ago I could've obliged Dave. My front was down to about 0.5mm. Looked a little and I do mean a little like a 20 pence piece, due to my daily 30 mile commute, but it was still very rideable  :028:

01s are good for about 8k rear, 10-12 front, riding style dependant of course  :038:
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Baldyone12 on November 11, 2018, 12:57:02 PM
Am also having 01's fitted this week so look forward to the difference now the Bridgestone on the front is finely had it....
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Shandy on November 11, 2018, 09:16:04 PM
*Originally Posted by sanda5506 [+]
Has anyone used both the PR5 and the Roadtec 01 that can give their direct opinion on which is best. Changing my tyres on Monday morning from stock and stuck between them both, I appreciate that either tyre will be an improvement

I've got the R5's, fantastic tyres I went for the R5's because I used to run PR4's and feel I can trust the Michelin's.
Michelin also have a few years MotoGP testing behind them now.

However, there's probably so little to tell between all the top end sports touring tyres that it's probably just worth getting the ones with the best deal on at the time.

There's other research to be done on both tyres and a poll on this forum, all worth reading. Answers your questions and gives you a good overall picture of what others are running.

https://www.z1000sx.co.uk/index.php/topic,10012.0.html

https://www.z1000sx.co.uk/index.php/topic,9721.0.html

https://www.z1000sx.co.uk/index.php/topic,10057.0.html

Let us know what you choose and don't forget to add to the poll.  :028: :830:
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 11, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
 :460: @Shandy
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Shandy on November 11, 2018, 10:57:02 PM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
:460: @Shandy

 :828:
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: jonah1981 on November 12, 2018, 01:45:22 AM
What is the price difference (fitted) between the Roadtec 01 and the PR5's had my bike serviced last week and it was an advisory to change the tyres, they are the stock ones at the moment so i will be replacing them, ASAP.
The PR5's I was quoted about £300 from thunderoad in Bridgend
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Shandy on November 12, 2018, 02:07:55 AM
Seems about right, I paid £290 for R5's fitted.

From memory the Metzler's were roughly the same, maybe £300

best advice, is to just ask around, prices will only vary slightly from dealer to dealer.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: mdr1970 on November 12, 2018, 06:33:58 AM
You can buy brand new 01s online delivered for 220, so just add whatever your local fitting charges would be. 260 - 300 is about the expected rate for quality tyres fitted  :028:
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: SteveMat on November 12, 2018, 06:46:43 AM
*Originally Posted by jonah1981 [+]
What is the price difference (fitted) between the Roadtec 01 and the PR5's had my bike serviced last week and it was an advisory to change the tyres, they are the stock ones at the moment so i will be replacing them, ASAP.
The PR5's I was quoted about £300 from thunderoad in Bridgend
Jonah, you could try Chris at https://blackroundsticky.co.uk/.  He is a mobile tyre fitter and usually a bit cheaper than the dealers.  He's based in Cardiff.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 12, 2018, 07:19:06 AM
I paid £195 for mine fitted 0.1

Really really happy with them, honestly say feels a different bike.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Ninjamaster on November 12, 2018, 08:43:29 AM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
I paid £195 for mine fitted 0.1

Really really happy with them, honestly say feels a different bike.

 :005: :005:what where? Please say Essex!
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Tudor Rebel on November 12, 2018, 08:48:36 AM
Not Essex :027:  Churchill motorcycles between MK & Towcester

About 1/2 mile from Super Sausage (heading towards MK)

https://www.churchillmotorcycles.co.uk
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: Ninjamaster on November 12, 2018, 08:51:08 AM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
Not Essex :027:  Churchill motorcycles between MK & Towcester

About 1/2 mile from Super Sausage (heading towards MK)

https://www.churchillmotorcycles.co.uk

Damn, Thanks for the link though.
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: sanda5506 on November 12, 2018, 11:27:18 AM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
I paid £195 for mine fitted 0.1

Really really happy with them, honestly say feels a different bike.
Is that price for a pair ?
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: mdr1970 on November 12, 2018, 12:35:16 PM
I already have a part worn to fit when my new rear is ready for change, since the fronts I've had tend to outlast the back by 3-4K + it makes perfect sense to run one with the part worn front on the bike!!
Here's another decent deal from evilbay for anyone looking to do similar: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metzeler-Roadtec-01-190-50zr17-mc75w-190-50-17-Part-Worn-Tyre-F45/253970774224?hash=item3b21d678d0:g:JGUAAOSwSxRb4-2~:rk:1:pf:0
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: jonah1981 on November 12, 2018, 11:42:29 PM
*Originally Posted by SteveMat [+]
Jonah, you could try Chris at https://blackroundsticky.co.uk/.  He is a mobile tyre fitter and usually a bit cheaper than the dealers.  He's based in Cardiff.

will do thanks for that steve
Title: Re: Roadtec 01 Vs PR5
Post by: whyhaveone on November 13, 2018, 09:18:28 AM
*Originally Posted by Talkspot [+]
I paid £195 for mine fitted 0.1

Really really happy with them, honestly say feels a different bike.

*Originally Posted by sanda5506 [+]
Is that price for a pair ?

Yes my thoughts as well. When everyone else's cost is around 280/300 for a pair fitted.  :003: