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Offline Blackie

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Risers- More of a Tourer
on: 13 Jul 20, 08:52:06

Bought some bar risers from Moto-CNC, £74.99 free postage.
They give a rise of about 1 1/2inches. Although the z is more comfortable than
some of its rivals, I found that there was still a little too much weight/ache
transmitted to my wrists and shoulders.( I have short-ish arms) I was reluctant to buy any risers because
like most of you have probably experienced on previous bikes youv'e owned- you have to mess on with rerouting cables
etc and it can be a PIA. What a pleasant surprise, on my 17 Z I did'nt have to. It took me about an hour, hey,I'm old!.
One tip. Before you try to undo the single downfacing allen bolt, not the double clamp bolts,
give it a few taps using a small diameter drift and a hammer,-they are
red locktited in place. I completed the work and went for a 35mile ride. Brilliant!
For me, the bike is now more tourer than sportsbike.It has not only helped eliminate most ofthe wrist
and shoulder ache, but has altered the whole geometry of the seating position- your'e more upright and
your weight is distributed differently through your A**.
The one downside with these Moto CNC risers is that when installed, you cant adjust your front suspension.
BUT, before I fitted them, if you look at the pic showing the underside of the risers,they are not solid circular
castings but are "hollowed" out- but not all the way through, if you see what I mean, I got the correct size socket bit
that fits the adjustment nut on both forks ( the outer nut, not the middle one you turn with a screwdriver) and tried it
and it fit easily into the riser "hollowed" out cavity, meaning- If you where to continue drilling all the way through
the casting, then when they where mounted you could then adjust the suspension.You would'nt see much while you where adjusting
but you could mark the top of the socket,etc, to keep track of the turns when adjusting the suspension.
Whether this "drilling out" the risers would structually weaken them is another matter I'm not qualified to say.
In my case, my suspension has already been set up and I have no need to adjust it, But i thought it worth mentioning for
those forum members who might be interested. After fitting- the cables, as mentioned, didnt need rerouting etc, They are Taught, but
not Tight, and there is very little room for anymore adjustment.The risers are marked L & R on the underside ans come with all necessary
additional bolts- you also use your original bolts- except the original downfacing allen bolts, which are now too short.







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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #1 on: 14 Jul 20, 09:59:53
Got these myself
Set suspension back to factory and took 2 pre load off the front and now want to change it back 😂 so it’s a bit of a pig not being able to adjust on the fly but Iv never been able to get mine to handle how I want

It’s either the front is resistant to turn or the rear, no happy medium
Although I did find out someone messed with my rear pre load the other day and cranked it nearly all the way up! Must of been like that for months before I noticed

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #2 on: 14 Jul 20, 10:12:06
Robz1000sx, yeah it's a pain when your suspension isn't right. It takes a lot of patience and trial and error as you have probably found out. When its set up right, your confidence in cornering increases and, for me I can enjoy the bike more without it waddling or pogoing around corners. I think it would be a good service if dealers included a personal customer to bike set up with you sat on the bike as you buy it, you know tailoring the bike to your weight etc.

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #3 on: 14 Jul 20, 12:26:30
Whilst that would be a great idea I think there’s a bedding in period so it would be ride it for a month and bring it back for set up kind of deal

I’m debating propper set up but not many local specialists and I didn’t want to fork out dolla if I end up not wanting to keep the bike D:

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #4 on: 14 Jul 20, 12:57:46
*Originally Posted by Blackie [+]
your'e more upright and your weight is distributed differently through your A**.

Does the revised seating position make the seat any more bearable for longer journeys ??

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #5 on: 14 Jul 20, 07:27:26
Yorkie.
I "doctored" my OEM seat-
https://www.z1000sx.co.uk/index.php/topic,12503.msg139860.html#msg139860
 I've just come in from a round trip, about 80-90 miles. I had one stop about halfway and was totally comfortable ( please see above original post) The risers, now allow me to just lightly rest my hands on the bars during,say long dual carraigeways and then take a firmer grip on bends etc, so , for me, at 5ft 11 its less tiring on the hands, wrists and shoulders.Its the kind of seating you would expect on a dedicated touring bike- i.e sitting upright. As shown in the above link- the (circa)1 inch foam insert laid ontop of the OEM seat, and then covered with some good quality M/C seat material has turned my OEM seat, into a thicker, what I would imagine, a comfort seat to be like.(only guessing, never sat on a Z comfort seat) The seat mod cost me, about £8 for the seat material, and about £6 for the foam if I remember. I used a standard household stapler- an Arrow. Bearing in mind the cost of a Bagster,Corbin or any other, as you know your talking hundreds of pounds.And then no guarantee that you'll like it.  I don't know why riders don't try this method first- the only thing you are going to do is leave tiny extra staple holes in the underside of your OEM seat if it doesn't turn out to your liking.

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #6 on: 14 Jul 20, 07:40:27
Cheers Blackie, thanks for the reply  :028:

I have had my seat altered with the gel insert by Tony Archer, it is definitely better but I still would not call the SX a tourer. I may welll try the bar risers to see if the change in body position makes the difference that I would like.

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #7 on: 15 Jul 20, 09:25:12
Just to recap- my 17 z has been lowered 30mm. the seat has had 20-25 mm layer of foam inserted. I have 1 1/2 inch risers, and i have a 55cm Skidmarx  tall screen-  and with the change in seating- body position- thats the reason I consider it more of a "tourer"
Also for any memebrs interested there is a YT video of  Moto-CNC installing the risers-
Last Edit: 15 Jul 20, 09:29:20 by Blackie

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #8 on: 17 Jul 20, 07:46:03
Done a 250 mile circular today around the Lakes / Dales and have ordered a pair of bar risers upon my return  :002:

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Re: Risers- More of a Tourer
Reply #9 on: 17 Jul 20, 08:16:54
wow thats some ride! I don't think you will be dissapointed.
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Blackie