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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #10 on: 15 Mar 20, 12:31:01
Having done a big of googling, it would appear that becuase it is an exsisting model, Euro 5 compliance isn't required until Jan 2021, if it were a new model then Jan 2020 would be the compliance date, if I'm reading the tables correctly.

https://www.transportpolicy.net/standard/eu-motorcycles-emissions/

For me it was only a choice between a 19 or 2020 model as it was the only bike I wanted, both being Euro 4 doesn't really bother me, I would have brough the cheaper 19 model if not for the TFT, CC KQS and a launch night £500 discount on the 20.

I haven't seen it advertised as Euro 5, I just assumed it was based on all the reviews I'd watched and read. The new exhaust system and tappet noise reduction apparently being one of the alterations needed to help it meet Euro 5 compliance...

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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #11 on: 15 Mar 20, 01:23:41
It's an uprated model and hence has to be Eu5 compliant.

Or that's what I thought - ALL reviews state it is Eu5 compliant.
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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #12 on: 15 Mar 20, 03:40:46
 :027: If that's the case Kawasaki has got some explaining to do...Wouldn't it need to compliant with current regulations in order for it to be possible to register it?

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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #13 on: 15 Mar 20, 05:30:45
from what I've heard it is "euro5-ready".  Translating it: it is still euro4.
btw also the new zh2 is euro5-ready but still euro4.
euro5 will be mandatory in 2021 on sales.

euro5 requires also new OBDII from what I've heard thanks to Greta  :008: and maybe kawa needs to still implement this part  I guess euro6 will require bike to emit roses...

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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #14 on: 15 Mar 20, 05:36:04
*Originally Posted by tissei [+]


from what I've heard thanks to Greta  :008: and maybe kawa needs to still implement this part  I guess euro6 will require bike to emit roses...

No they will decompose and then emit methane making things worse.


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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #15 on: 30 Mar 20, 08:11:40
Morning all.
My V5 also says euro4.
Has anyone had a answer from Kawasaki yet regarding this matter?


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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #16 on: 31 Mar 20, 11:48:49
Yes, I had an answer:

Hi Colin,

Thank you for writing to Kawasaki Motors UK.

We can confirm your vehicles V5 document is correct if as you suggest it is stating your 2020 model year Ninja Z1000SX is Euro 4 compliant. The Ninja Z1000SX is Type Approved as Euro 4 as the Type Approval for this model was issued before 1st January 2020.

Any motorcycle issued with a new Type Approval after the 1st January 2020 onwards will have to meet the new Euro 5 requirements.   

Please be assured your V5 document does appear to be correct base on the details you have provided us and we would suggest there is no cause for concern.

Kind regards,


Then (after I asked why was the press reporting it as being Eu5 compliant/ready and what restrictions were in pplace for Eu4 vehicles):

Hi Colin,

Thank you for your reply.

We are sorry to learn you feel you maybe faced with potential severe repercussions regarding environmental restrictions. We are not aware of any EU restrictions which could currently be imposed on Euro 4 compliant motorcycles. We would welcome your views on what restrictions you feel you may face.

In the meantime may we again confirm the Euro category (ie Euro 4/5) would be dependant upon the date a new vehicle was presented for European Whole Vehicle Type Approval. The new Ninja 1000SX was subject to Whole Vehicle Type Approval before 1st January 2020, therefore, your specific model is Euro 4 compliant.

We work closely with other European Distributors and can confirm the new Ninja 1000SX is widely available within all EU countries. As far as we can gather your motorcycle is not subjected to any European environmental restrictions which we are aware off.

Kind regards,


Then (again after repeating my question re press reporting):

Hi Colin,

Kawasaki Motors have not implied at any point that the motorcycle conforms to, has been submitted for or has been homologated to Euro 5 WVTA.

Conversations with the press who may have attended model launches would have been very clear regarding the conformity of our new models under the current legislation.

It is a fact that new models have been produced with the demand for cleaner emissions as part of their development. The Euro 4 WVTA remains a current type approval for vehicle registration and will be subject to End of Series derogation.

Please be assured we have passed your comments onto our press department who work closely with the UK motorcycle journalists.

We sympathise with any confusion which may have arisen but trust the information we have provided offers you a clearer understand of your machines homologation category.

Kind regards,
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Re: 2020 Ninja 1000SX V5
Reply #17 on: 31 Mar 20, 03:31:15
Expected answer.
Not to be pedant but where and when kawasaki claimed the ninja 1000sx as a EURO5 machine?
I mean, besides uninformed press articles or persons.

Bye the way, given the restrictions, I suspect EURO4 runs less hot than what would be EURO5 and probably with more grunt.
and EURO4 will be restricted from circulation maybe in decades...

But, in any case, kawa will be indeed forced to produce an euro5 in 2021... they will change something for sure... most probably the OBDII electronics on board to bring them up to standards...